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Started Today - When we dial 9 we don't get dial tone any more? 1

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vsmith1026

IS-IT--Management
May 10, 2006
34
CA
System is CS1000

This started this morning. Our vendor said they didn't do anything so they put a ticket into Bell to check our T1 and of course Bell said they didn't see any trouble. We had the same problem last week at another location after they upgraded our phone system and then on the next business day when staff came in and tried to make a call by dialing 9 no dial tone was returned so everyone thought the lines are down. If they did continue dialing the call would of course go through but they wanted the old way back. So apparently the vendor said they had to program NARS and BARS (3 hrs programming they said)on the new system to get 9 to return dial tone, they said the old system didn't have NARS/BARS set up but note we did get 9 plus return dial tone on the old system (Meridian Rls24).

SO back to our main site and today the same thing is happening and so obviously our vendor must have done something. One point I'd like to make is when this system was upgraded to the CS1000 in 2008 the tech that installed the system had to fix the same problem but I don't think he fixed it by programming BARS/NARS and it was a pretty quick fix once he figured out how to fix it. What is the other solution for fixing our 9 to return dial tone that you can think of without programming full blown BARS/NARS? The tech working on the problem today said we didn't have BARS/NARS programmed which is leading me to the fact that our dial 9 with return dial tone was set up somewhere else than BARS/NARs. Please help this is most frustrating and our techs from our interconnect seem clueless. The tech that solved the problem at our other site where the new system was installed last week is off sick and I also think that it was he that made some change that affected us here at our main location but no one can ask him because he is sick.

HELP HELP
 
DLTN in the ESN Data Block in LD 86 if using BARS. If not using BARS but using 9 for the Access Code to the Rote you can turn on DLTN to yes in the RDB but dial tone is typically provided by the carrier on the trunks.
 
Here is the Route Data Block for our outgoing (Dial 9) route I don't see "DLTN"

TYPE RDB
CUST 00
ROUT 62
DES OUTBOUND
TKTP COT
NPID_TBL_NUM 0
PRIV NO
SAT NO
RCLS EXT
VTRK NO
NODE
DTRK YES
BRIP NO
DGTP PRI
ISDN YES
MODE PRA
IFC D100
SBN NO
PNI 00000
NCNA YES
NCRD NO
ISAR YES
RTN 60
MIN 0
MAX 70
NCOS 0
IEC ???
CPUB OFF
DAPC NO
BCOT 0
DSEL VOD
PTYP PRI
AUTO NO
DCDR NO
ICOG OGT
RANX NO
SRCH LIN
STEP
ACOD 9
TCPP NO
TARG
CLEN 1
OABS
TIMR ICF 512
OGF 512
EOD 13952
NRD 10112
DDL 70
OOD 3
ODT 13824
RGV 640
FLH 510
GRD 896
SFB 3
CRD 512
NBS 2048


PAGE 036

NBL 4096
TFD 0
LEXT 100
CDR YES
INC YES
LAST NO
QREC NO
OAL NO
OTL YES
AIA NO
OAN YES
OPD NO
CDRX NO
NATL YES
MUS YES
MRT 89
RACD NO
EQAR NO
FRL 0 1
FRL 1 0
FRL 2 2
FRL 3 0
FRL 4 4
FRL 5 0
FRL 6 0
FRL 7 0
TDET NO
TTBL 0
ATAN NO
PLEV 2
MCTS NO
ALRM NO
ART 0
SGRP 0
ARDN NO
AACR NO
 
Also meant to add it's been working fine and Bell wouldn't have made any change and they said the circuit is fine so I'm 99.9% sure a change was made somewhere by our interconnect. Our dial 9 with return dial tone just stopped working a day or so ago.

Also meant to say thank you.

Can you check out the route I sent you for our Dial 9 route please. I don't see the DLTN you mentioned?

Thanks you ROCK!


I know you are on the right track just don't give up please. Could it be somewhere in the CDB maybe?

Please don't give up on me!
 
DUHHHHH I found DLTN it is as YES.

You can't type I can't SEE.

Anything else you can think of?

Here is something my vendor sent to me today when he told we didn't have BARS/NARS programmed and like I said I knew we never had need for BARS/NARS since we have no toll restriction except for a few client phones that can't dial long distance. It's a quick fix I just know it because they quickly $%&*'d up something quickly to affect our dial 9?

any way he sent me this:

DCH 14 OMSG NOTIFY REF 000091B8 CH 5 6 TOD 10:52:10
REDIR REASON: CALL FORWARD UNCONDITION
REDN #:7718800 NUM PLAN: E164/SUBSCRIBER (NXX)/LOCL


MEM AVAIL: (U/P): 46259759 USED U P: 5174691 195627 TOT: 51630077
DISK SPACE NEEDED: 262 KBYTES
REQ prt
CUST 0
FEAT net
TRAN ac1
TYPE nxx

NXX

ESN071


MEM AVAIL: (U/P): 46259759 USED U P: 5174691 195627 TOT: 51630077
DISK SPACE NEEDED: 262 KBYTES
REQ prt
CUST 0
FEAT net
TRAN ac1
TYPE npa
AUD000


NPA

ESN071
 
Something looks very strange in that route. Almost like you have call by call routing because it has mins and maxs set almost like it is a service route and not the master route.
 
Wee have 1 site that is 7.5 and have had this a few times, 1st time it was thought that it was caused by a set change of an IP phone, 2nd and 3rd time ???? We lost all NARs/BARs as well as CDP dialing, entries were gone in the database!! Quick fix for us was to swap CPU's and then reload the affected side.

sporty2
 
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