R6 VCM licenses removed?

[schris403]

I read that in R6, VCM licenses have been removed but I am a little confused if they have been replaced with something else. Is there something else that a customer would need to purchase to maintain Avaya IP phone connectivity? I would hate to have a customer purchase VCM licenses in the upcoming weeks if they are a waste of money when R6 comes out.

Thanks!

 

[TomMills]

they wont be a waste of money, there will be an upgrade path for those licenses.

http://www.twitter.com/tem1985

 

[schris403]

So there will be a new license requirement for ip phones?

 

[amriddle01]

Each VCM channel licence will give you three Avaya IP endpoint licences (yes even Avaya handsets need licences in R6) so you get 12 with the card then for each VCM licence you have x3

ACS - IP Office Implement

"What the Crocodile Hat....was that?

 

[schris403]

So are the Avaya IP endpoint licenses the ones that already exist for 3rd party only or is there a new part # for these new ip endpoints?

 

[amriddle01]

New, all will be revealed shortly, I have probably said too much already

ACS - IP Office Implement

"What the Crocodile Hat....was that?

 

[baldwincl]

Do not like. I wish they would stop messing with licensing just to make things "easier"

 

[TomMills]

im on the fench. as long as they stick to a decent licensing structure once they hit it, i'll be happy.

http://www.twitter.com/tem1985

 

[amriddle01]

The more money they can squeeze from licensing the better in Avaya's eyes, to customers/us it just makes you feel like you are getting ripped off as let's face it I'll bet it ends up costing more than before. (Forget migration for a minute, this is for new) As you only needed enough licences for IP to line or IP to TDM which was usually covered by 8 - 10 licences for 30 - 40 user systems, now you will need many more

ACS - IP Office Implement

"What the Crocodile Hat....was that?

 

[TomMills]

thats business baby. its all about money. gotta keep those shareholders with a good supply of hookers and coke. not talking about avaya just generally

http://www.twitter.com/tem1985

 

[amriddle01]

But they had it right at the start, the IP office became so well liked and popular because of that and coupled with the fact it was good value for money, now they charge more and more for hardware (which is now made cheaper and less reliable), they are starting to licence everything and I heard a very disturbing rumour today about the IP office SSU costing and minimum order level, all in all not good

ACS - IP Office Implement

"What the Crocodile Hat....was that?

 

[intrigrant]

If sales drop they will turn by, avaya is very $ driven.

 

[TomMills]

we had someone in about the SSU the other day. they didnt mention min orders though. Also need 2 ACSS not just PA.

http://www.twitter.com/tem1985

 

[tlpeter]

For that amount i give double hours of service


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