So how does a customer who had an r3 with a backup ever go to a newer processor? On the MAgix you can converty the database as I'm sure you know. Avaya has made no facility for this? It appears the audio pairs of all the station ports on the card are blown out, but I can still get into programming. If I take and r4,5 or 6 backup and restoe I could upgrade and then back up? Then take the backup and move it to the new card? Is this Avaya's procedure?