We currently have an Isoetec EZ-1 phone system. It is wired to a Bogen DMA80 with TP-S module for overhead ring/page. We are replacing this with Avaya IP500 V2, but we are having trouble figuring out the wiring from the IP500 to the Bogen amp. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Overhead Page Question 1
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You will want to get an isolation transformer as the IPO for what ever reason puts a voltage on the line. Program an analog port to bbe a page port and access with a Dial Page short code.
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OH MY Goodness BCMaint, you still have an EZ-1 in operation? Where is it in operation at? The IP Office we be a great improvement.
Quick note, the EZ-1 was my first experiment with paging systems. My high school had an EZ-1 in 1995 and the main office struggled with paging from a microphone on an old DuKane console. As a student who did the morning PA annoucements, I suggested to the principal that we talk to the phone man, in this case Frank Banas from KLF Communications Indiana, to hook the EZ-1 to the back of an input on the DuKane. It worked! The principal was so happy that he could go to any phone in the building, get a modern sounding page prompt tone on the speakers when dialing 60 and talking across the school. The only thing he hated, was when I would slam the phone down over the PA system after I made the announcements...I liked the noise...but he would rush out to press the release button and beat me to it!
Then a huge civil war broke out within the school. The football coach weight room sound system was bypassed when the new EZ-1 was connected to the port on the DuKane, so he would come and shut it off constantly. Finally he gave up. Then they discovered that the tornado siren didn't work properly and it required the principal to page an entire afternoon repeatedly across the school and everyone hated me for that! haha.
Anyways, thanks for bringing back the good memories of the old EZ-1. Are you going to pitch the EZ-1?
Do you have access to get a third party SIP device? If so, I would recommend getting a SNOM PA-1 paging SIP device $99 and then take the standard two wire RCA outputs from the SNOM PA-1 and connect it to the bogen input. The SNOM sounds like a full fledged highly audible sports stadium PA system. I have one connected to my IP Office as a SIP extension.
Joseph Sus Jr. Nortel Emetrotel Consultant
Quick note, the EZ-1 was my first experiment with paging systems. My high school had an EZ-1 in 1995 and the main office struggled with paging from a microphone on an old DuKane console. As a student who did the morning PA annoucements, I suggested to the principal that we talk to the phone man, in this case Frank Banas from KLF Communications Indiana, to hook the EZ-1 to the back of an input on the DuKane. It worked! The principal was so happy that he could go to any phone in the building, get a modern sounding page prompt tone on the speakers when dialing 60 and talking across the school. The only thing he hated, was when I would slam the phone down over the PA system after I made the announcements...I liked the noise...but he would rush out to press the release button and beat me to it!
Then a huge civil war broke out within the school. The football coach weight room sound system was bypassed when the new EZ-1 was connected to the port on the DuKane, so he would come and shut it off constantly. Finally he gave up. Then they discovered that the tornado siren didn't work properly and it required the principal to page an entire afternoon repeatedly across the school and everyone hated me for that! haha.
Anyways, thanks for bringing back the good memories of the old EZ-1. Are you going to pitch the EZ-1?
Do you have access to get a third party SIP device? If so, I would recommend getting a SNOM PA-1 paging SIP device $99 and then take the standard two wire RCA outputs from the SNOM PA-1 and connect it to the bogen input. The SNOM sounds like a full fledged highly audible sports stadium PA system. I have one connected to my IP Office as a SIP extension.
Joseph Sus Jr. Nortel Emetrotel Consultant
sorry typo...the IP Office will be a great improvement!
Joseph Sus Jr. Nortel Emetrotel Consultant
Joseph Sus Jr. Nortel Emetrotel Consultant
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RLSbutton, funny you should mention that. The building our company is in WAS an elementary school originally. The EZ-1 we have MIGHT still work, but over time it was acting up. Some extensions didn't get all the incoming lines. We had a power outage a few weeks ago and lost the ring and page on all phones. Our first thought was that somehow it put itself into "night" mode. Unfortunately, nobody knows where the master phone with the night/day button is. Easy solution would be to get a new master phone off ebay, but a new phone system sounded better to me. On the other hand, I'm the one who now has to install said new phone system. And the phones are the only thing in this company I know absolutely nothing about. I appreciate the input from you guys, but please know that when it comes to phone systems, I know how to answer them and make calls. So be gentle with me ;-)
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The Valcom VMT-2 is a direct 600-600 ohm isolation transformer. We have used the Valcom and the Bogen WMT1A. You can connect to the TP-S or a line level input, it should work either way. And yes, connect the screw terminals to the analog port and program as a page port on the IP Office.
Dermis and feline can be divorced by manifold methods.*
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Dermis and feline can be divorced by manifold methods.*
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We got our system in today and installed everything. The system is set up so that extension 16 is an analog extension. I have pins 4 and 5 wired to a WMT1A. The RCA output goes to our amplifier. The overhead page isn't working. I logged into the system and found they had the extension set to standard. I changed it to paging speaker, rebooted the system, but it's still not working. Any ideas?
EDIT: The analog extension is part of a group and one of the buttons is set to "all page" that allows us to "page" over all the desk phones. When I call the analog extension directly, I get a busy signal.
EDIT: The analog extension is part of a group and one of the buttons is set to "all page" that allows us to "page" over all the desk phones. When I call the analog extension directly, I get a busy signal.
TouchToneTommy
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Make a short code that is Dial Paging to Ext. 16. Watch Ext. 16 in System Status while you attempt the page.
The RCA cable is High-Impedance for an amplifier's Auxiliary input, your TP-S module is 600-ohm. You may have a mismatch and need to use an available AUX input on the amplifier instead, or use a 600 to 600 transformer
The RCA cable is High-Impedance for an amplifier's Auxiliary input, your TP-S module is 600-ohm. You may have a mismatch and need to use an available AUX input on the amplifier instead, or use a 600 to 600 transformer
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TouchToneTommy
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Create the short code and make the button Dial and the short code
Okay, I missed an important part. From what I am seeing it looks like you are using the IPO in basic mode, which it works more like a Partner. I can't say I am familiar enough with Basic to guarantee this, but I bet you have to dial *70 to do an all page.
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Dermis and feline can be divorced by manifold methods.*
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Yes, we have the basic edition. I gave up on wiring directly into the Bogen amp. Our other facility has an old lucent system that uses a pagepal to interface with the amp. We ordered one off ebay and we're going to try and use it with the IPO. Worst case is we have a spare for the other building. It looks like on the Lucent system they have an analog line for the night ringer and a digital line plugged into the modular jack for paging.
BCM Maint,
If you can get a SIP extension on the IP Office, you should get the SNOM PA-1, it's ridiculously easy to set up, you basically just dial the device, it answers and broadcasts to the amplifier like a stereo connection. Since it is SIP based, you will not get any Analog Central Office Disconnect Pops or Clicks when the page is released or dropped in Avaya terminology. Look me up on Linkedin if you want to talk more about it or the Isotec system. Would love to chat.
Joseph Sus Jr. Nortel Emetrotel Consultant
If you can get a SIP extension on the IP Office, you should get the SNOM PA-1, it's ridiculously easy to set up, you basically just dial the device, it answers and broadcasts to the amplifier like a stereo connection. Since it is SIP based, you will not get any Analog Central Office Disconnect Pops or Clicks when the page is released or dropped in Avaya terminology. Look me up on Linkedin if you want to talk more about it or the Isotec system. Would love to chat.
Joseph Sus Jr. Nortel Emetrotel Consultant
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The way the company that set the system up for us had it programmed was they set one of the user buttons as "Group Calling - page" and the analog line is in the group. The intent was that it would broadcast over each phone as well as the overhead paging via the analog extension.
Loudspeaker paging systems allow you to broadcast a message over a large area. Use this feature to specify the extension port to which you connected the loudspeaker paging system.
The extension is used by the Loudspeaker Page and Simultaneous Page functions.
So I am thinking group calling probably not the right choice. We don't put in basic mode, but a lot of it is based on the Partner ACS.
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The extension is used by the Loudspeaker Page and Simultaneous Page functions.
So I am thinking group calling probably not the right choice. We don't put in basic mode, but a lot of it is based on the Partner ACS.
Dermis and feline can be divorced by manifold methods.*
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Yes, BCM Maint, the SNOM PA1 will ring over the loudspeakers based on a setting on the device called "Auto Answer." What I don't know is if the Auto Answer setting is for the entire device or just for one of the registered lines. I think you can register up to 8 lines on the SNOM PA-1, in short, there can be 8 page zones. I'll have to check later. For $99 a piece, you can probably buy two SNOM PA-1's, and register each one as separate extensions.
Device One Overhead Paging (extension 20)
Device Two For overhead loudbells
Joseph Sus Jr. Nortel Emetrotel Consultant
Device One Overhead Paging (extension 20)
Device Two For overhead loudbells
Joseph Sus Jr. Nortel Emetrotel Consultant
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