GordonKapesMZ4
Programmer
Is it possible to use 3 digit extensions on the 616? I can't find a choice to change DN length like on an 8x24.
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Norstar dr5 616 maximum dn length?
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curlycord
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You need to do a STARTUP and choose 3 digits I'm afraid.
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curlycord
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GordonKapesMZ4
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Hmmmmm, the only startup choices I have are to choose a template:
Square, hybrid and PBX.
I've done a little more reading on tek tips and it looks as though the 616 only allows 2 digit DN numbers.
"Keep the Peace, Use RLS"
Square, hybrid and PBX.
I've done a little more reading on tek tips and it looks as though the 616 only allows 2 digit DN numbers.
"Keep the Peace, Use RLS"
norstarboy125
Vendor
I've installed and serviced 100's of 6x16's over the years and have never seen one that was 3 digits.
Charm City Communications
Charm City Communications
curlycord
Programmer
I thought so too as cant recall doing one at 3 digits since never the need but then read this:
Internal numbers
Each telephone in the
system has its own internal
number. The length of internal numbers in your system may be 2
digits. All numbers in your system are the same length. Your
Customer Service Representative sets the length of internal
numbers (also called the DN length) in Configuration
programming.
Source is from 6X16 DR5 Installer Guide:
Page 154 -
In 10 years I think this is the second time I was fooled by that paragraph as I seem to have Deja Vu on this.
Maybe they forgot to program it in the software or a guide issue.
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curlycord
Toronto Canada
Internal numbers
Each telephone in the
system has its own internal
number. The length of internal numbers in your system may be 2
digits. All numbers in your system are the same length. Your
Customer Service Representative sets the length of internal
numbers (also called the DN length) in Configuration
programming.
Source is from 6X16 DR5 Installer Guide:
Page 154 -
In 10 years I think this is the second time I was fooled by that paragraph as I seem to have Deja Vu on this.
Maybe they forgot to program it in the software or a guide issue.
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curlycord
Toronto Canada
I just looked in my DR5 installation manual and it makes no mention of choosing a different DN length during STARTUP. Maybe DR5.1 had this option, but I don't remember ever seeing a 616 with 3-digit DN's.
Brian Cox
Georgia Telephone
Brian Cox
Georgia Telephone
curlycord
Programmer
Nor is it in configuration as described above (from System Coordinator Guide).
The sysco guide actually states it was under System Data where you change DN's.
Also this from a Compact DR5 programming record:
System Data:
A sub-heading for a programming section that lets you re-assign a telephone’s internal number or
change the lengths of all internal numbers and of Received numbers.
These must have been meant for 8X24 Guides since it mentions Received Numbers.
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curlycord
Toronto Canada
The sysco guide actually states it was under System Data where you change DN's.
Also this from a Compact DR5 programming record:
System Data:
A sub-heading for a programming section that lets you re-assign a telephone’s internal number or
change the lengths of all internal numbers and of Received numbers.
These must have been meant for 8X24 Guides since it mentions Received Numbers.
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curlycord
Toronto Canada
Firebird Scrambler
Systems Engineer
I would agree from this side of the pond. I found the info below from am old PDF file.
System Startup is performed only when the system is first installed. System Startup allows you to select one of three
programming templates: Square, Hybrid, or PBX. Each template initializes all of the programming data to system wide defaults.
Default settings: Many of the programming settings are determined during System Startup according to the selected
template. Any of these settings may later be changed during programming.
System Startup
Perform System Startup after the system hardware has been installed and powered up.
CAUTION
Startup is to be used for initial installation only, or after a system software upgrade with a new Software
Cartridge. Do not use Startup after Norstar is in operation; the procedure erases all system administrative data.
All Configuration and Administration data will be retained for at least three days if the power fails or if the Norstar system is powered off. After three days without power, it may be necessary to perform System Startup again.
Note: Do not attempt Directory Number (DN) changes within two minutes of System Startup (using the Change DNs
option of 5. Srstcm Data). Attempting a DN change may disable the ports.
System Startup access
The System Startup code and a password are used only by Installers to access System Startup.
The correct Startup code must be entered no later than 15 minute_s after the Norstar system has been powered up.
A Startup code entered at any time after the 15 minute interval results in the message Startup denied. If this occurs, re-power the system again to prepare for the System Startup process.
Entering System Startup
Note: If at any time you do not wish to continue with entering System Startup, press m.
1. Select a Norstar telephone from which to program. Place the correct Programming Overlay over the buttons of the
telephone. A button may be used during programming when its indicator b turns on.
2. Using the telephone dial pad, enter the System Startup code:
[Feature ** 7827887} Which is the same as: [Feature ** STARTUP}
3. At the Password: prompt, enter the installer password: (The Installer password is not shown on the display.)
The default password is xxxxxx which is the same as xxxxxx. You will have to use the default if this
is the first time that Configuration programming has been accessed. If Startup must be performed on an existing
system which has already been programmed, the Installer password might have been changed. The change should
have been recorded in the Compact BR5 Programming Record.
4. If the password is entered correctly, the display shows Reset memory? Proceed to change the system template as
described in the next procedure.
OR
If the Password has been entered incorrectly,
Password: remains on the display.
Press the RETRY display button (or Retry] on the M7208 Telephone) and re-enter the correct password.
Note: For the security of system data, do not inform anyone the the Installer password is used for System Startup.
Choosing the system template
System Startup is used during initial installation to choose the appropriate template before starting programming. There are three templates available:
Square: Line 01 and Line 02 are assigned to each telephone.
Hybrid: Each telephone has access to Line Pool A and is assigned Line 01.
PBX: Each telephone has access to Line Pool A, but does not have a line assigned.
1. The display shows Reset Memory? To continue with System Startup and choose the system template, press YES (or
YES) on the M7208 Telephone).
OR
To exit from System Startup, press CANCEL (or (Rls on the M7208 Telephone).
2. The display shows Template Square. To accept the Square template, go to step 3.
OR
To select another template, press CHANGE (or Change] on the M7208 Telephone) to select another template.
3. To accept the template shown and exit from System Startup,
press [NEXT]. System Startup is complete when the default time and date appear on the telephone display.
All the best
Firebird Scrambler
Meridian 1 / Succession and BCM / Norstar Programmer in the UK
If it's working, then leave it alone!.
System Startup is performed only when the system is first installed. System Startup allows you to select one of three
programming templates: Square, Hybrid, or PBX. Each template initializes all of the programming data to system wide defaults.
Default settings: Many of the programming settings are determined during System Startup according to the selected
template. Any of these settings may later be changed during programming.
System Startup
Perform System Startup after the system hardware has been installed and powered up.
CAUTION
Startup is to be used for initial installation only, or after a system software upgrade with a new Software
Cartridge. Do not use Startup after Norstar is in operation; the procedure erases all system administrative data.
All Configuration and Administration data will be retained for at least three days if the power fails or if the Norstar system is powered off. After three days without power, it may be necessary to perform System Startup again.
Note: Do not attempt Directory Number (DN) changes within two minutes of System Startup (using the Change DNs
option of 5. Srstcm Data). Attempting a DN change may disable the ports.
System Startup access
The System Startup code and a password are used only by Installers to access System Startup.
The correct Startup code must be entered no later than 15 minute_s after the Norstar system has been powered up.
A Startup code entered at any time after the 15 minute interval results in the message Startup denied. If this occurs, re-power the system again to prepare for the System Startup process.
Entering System Startup
Note: If at any time you do not wish to continue with entering System Startup, press m.
1. Select a Norstar telephone from which to program. Place the correct Programming Overlay over the buttons of the
telephone. A button may be used during programming when its indicator b turns on.
2. Using the telephone dial pad, enter the System Startup code:
[Feature ** 7827887} Which is the same as: [Feature ** STARTUP}
3. At the Password: prompt, enter the installer password: (The Installer password is not shown on the display.)
The default password is xxxxxx which is the same as xxxxxx. You will have to use the default if this
is the first time that Configuration programming has been accessed. If Startup must be performed on an existing
system which has already been programmed, the Installer password might have been changed. The change should
have been recorded in the Compact BR5 Programming Record.
4. If the password is entered correctly, the display shows Reset memory? Proceed to change the system template as
described in the next procedure.
OR
If the Password has been entered incorrectly,
Password: remains on the display.
Press the RETRY display button (or Retry] on the M7208 Telephone) and re-enter the correct password.
Note: For the security of system data, do not inform anyone the the Installer password is used for System Startup.
Choosing the system template
System Startup is used during initial installation to choose the appropriate template before starting programming. There are three templates available:
Square: Line 01 and Line 02 are assigned to each telephone.
Hybrid: Each telephone has access to Line Pool A and is assigned Line 01.
PBX: Each telephone has access to Line Pool A, but does not have a line assigned.
1. The display shows Reset Memory? To continue with System Startup and choose the system template, press YES (or
YES) on the M7208 Telephone).
OR
To exit from System Startup, press CANCEL (or (Rls on the M7208 Telephone).
2. The display shows Template Square. To accept the Square template, go to step 3.
OR
To select another template, press CHANGE (or Change] on the M7208 Telephone) to select another template.
3. To accept the template shown and exit from System Startup,
press [NEXT]. System Startup is complete when the default time and date appear on the telephone display.
All the best
Firebird Scrambler
Meridian 1 / Succession and BCM / Norstar Programmer in the UK
If it's working, then leave it alone!.
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