IP 406 AVAYA PRI Expansion

[rogsrogan]

Currently have a number of IP 406 V2 in different sites. We currently use our own network of TDM multiplexers (PROMINA) with TMCP and PVEC 24 cards to route traffic around our network. However one of our sites has grown quite large and we have 4 IP 406 V2 units spread over a 4 mile area. Here is the issue:

At present I use a single PRI30 in slot B of each unit. This does not give enough channels for around 350 users. However a lot of calls are within the same location. Therefore:

I want to install a PRI60 (dual PRI module) into slot A and then connect with the use of E1 FOM's over a dediacted fibre infrastructure to other IP 406 V2 units. Will the IP 406 V2 work in this configuration? i.e. will they route calls directly between themselves without going over the PROMINA multiplexer.

Also if the Dual PRI module is put in place do I need to upgrade the software version running on the unit, if so which version do I need?

Any advice gratefully received.

 

[kwing112000]

do you need to do it over PRI you may be better off with IP networking.

 

[rogsrogan]

The PRI solution seems the easiest option to me. How would I go about doing this via and IP solution? Is this with the use of the WAN connector on the back of the IP 406?

 

[kwing112000]

No you could use the LAN ports on the front. Do you already have some sort of data connection for your computers. I have take fiber and used ethernet converters and plugged ehternet into the IPO then convert to fiber and run to the other end and then use a converter to go back to ethernet and plugged in another IPO and it worked great.

 

[mforrence]

The cost advantage of keeping it TDM (non IP) is that you don't require VCM resources. Using the PRI modules and fiber, you'll need a device to convert from E1 to fiber then back again at far end. All routing would need to be done via short codes. You'll also need to configure PRIs for back-to-back operation via QSIG protocol. I'm in US, so not intimately familiar with E1 setup.
Mike

 

[kholladay]

It sounds like he already has all of this working and just wants to know if the 406 can handle the dual PRI card and if so does he have to upgrade his software. The answer would be yes, the 406 can handle a dual PRI card in slot A and a single in slot B. And no you do not need to upgrade your software to do this.

You could also optionally if needed in the future upgrade to a 412 which can handle 2ea Dual cards or an IP500 which can handle 4ea IP500 universal dual PRI cards.

Kyle Holladay
ACA-I, ACA Call Center, ACS-I, ACS-M, TIA-CTP, MCP/MCTS Exchange 2007
ACE Implement: IP Office

"If it worked the way it should you wouldn't need me

 

[rogsrogan]

Kholladay you have got it spot on. I asked about the IP412 upgrade but my boss has said its going to cost to much.

I'm a little baffeled about the LAN comments. Is it possible to send voice traffic over from LAN to LAN connections between different AVAYA excahnges at level 2 OSI ? I was under the impression this was not possible.

Q. Can this this done via a connection from the WAN port (on the IP 406 main module) to a WAN port on another IP 406?

and a final question (I promise) how can I upgrade the voice conference capability on the IP 406? I'm looking at 1/2 conferences with up to 10 confress on each.

All answers welcome and cheers for the help so far.

 

[kholladay]

You can network via IP over the WAN port but I wouldn't. You can also network via IP Over the PRI card but again I wouldn't. I would typically network via the Ethernet switch on the front of the IP406 connected to a router that provides your site-to-site networking then creating an IP trunk under the "Lines" tree in Manager and pointing each site's "Gateway" address to the IP Office at the remote end. If your boss is complaining about the cost of the PRI card you certainly won't want to do this as VCM resources outcost PRI resources. I would say if you have the devices in-place to network your locations via PRI and are happy with the way things are working then by all means keep with it.

The IP406 has an integrated 64-participant conference bridge that can be allocated dynamically as needed (i.e. 1x64 party, 2x32 party, 10x6 party, etc). There is no way to "upgrade" that capacity beyond 64. The IP412 has two of these 64-party bridges.

http://marketingtools.avaya.com/kno...esources.htm?zoom_highlightsub=conference+128

Kyle Holladay
ACA-I, ACA Call Center, ACS-I, ACS-M, TIA-CTP, MCP/MCTS Exchange 2007
ACE Implement: IP Office

"If it worked the way it should you wouldn't need me

 

[rogsrogan]

I have had a look at the conference paper work. How would I go about setting up say x2 confernces of 10 users at the same time?

Can this be done via a master phone user dailing all the other numbers?

Rgds

 

[rogsrogan]

Further help required please.

I've now got my E1 FOMs and new dual PRI modules. I've installed the modules and the AVAYA sees them no problem. I've connected the PRI ports to the E1 FOMs over SC fibre connections to other sites and paired AVAYAs see each other no problem.
The problem comes when I try to direct calls down specific routes. For some reason all calls want to route down the PRI and over the TDM network and not the direct connect route. Has anyone any ideas on any specific programming sysmbols/commands that need to go in to get this to work.

Rgds

 

[spridge]

Connected the PRI ports to the E1 FOM's ??

Can you explain the connections you have made