CMS Backup Operation 2

[Guest_imported]

The CMS client software that my company runs is displaying "CMSADM backup has not been completed within the last 30 days, do so immediately."

What is a "CMSADM" backup?

I've executed the normal backup, but it never seems to get this warning to go away.

Any suggestions?

thanks,

 

[Phoneman2]

You have two backups to do. One is Hitorical data and one is your Admin backup. It sounds like you are only doing your Hisorical data. To do the admin backup you need to login as ROOT. This needs to be done on the terminel that the system is on. If you need more I can go back to mine and write down the steps. Look!!! New Buttons
Same amount of time!

Thanks All Phoneman2

 

[BobFox]

CMS provides two basic types of backups:
1 CMS Administration (CMSADM) File System Backup
2 CMS Maintenance Backup — Full and Incremental.

The CMSADM file system backup includes the following:
• Solaris system files and programs
• CMS programs and data
• Non-CMS customer data placed on the computer (in addition to the CMS data).

Maintenance:
CMS maintenance backups save only CMS data (administration and historical).

The CMSADM file system backup should be done once a month.
if you must need to remove that message in a hurry you can do the following:
Type: touch /cms/install/logdir/backup.success (enter)
this will change the date of the file and the message is gone for 30 days.
But it is recommend that you should make your backups.

Greets, bob

 

[scottyjohn]

Hi Guys,
Can you explain in a bit more detail what exact data the different backups actually save?

Cheers Hope this helps
John

http://www.eagle-i.co.uk

 

[JZon]

If you have a root login, to complete the cmsadm backup you have to do the following.
On the unix-prompt type "cmsadm", a menu will appear. The backup filesystem is option 3.
If you have multiple tapedrives, make sure that you have the CMSADM-backup-tape in the right drive.
When you proceed you will be able to change the tapedrive where to write it to.
The whole backup will take approx. 45 minutes

John

 

[JZon]

cmsadm:backup performs a UNIX command that states, essentially "Copy every
single file stored in memory in the system to the backup tape."
CMS data collection must be shutdown while running a cmsadm backup, which can take from one to
several hours, depending on the size of the system and the type of tape drive being used.

The second type of backup is referred to as a “full maintenance” backup, “CMS full maintenance”
backup, “CMS maintenance” backup or “maintenance” backup. This is the type of backup performed
when the backup is done from within the CMS application, via the “Maintenance:Back Up Data” menu
item.
In the input screen displayed via the Maintenance:Back Up Data menu, you can choose which of the two
types of maintenance backups to perform: incremental or full. If full is chosen, all of the data (system
administration, ACD administration, historical, or specific historical data files) will be backed up.
Typically, all of the CMS data possible is selected and backed up. If incremental is chosen, all of the data
that has changed since the last backup (full or incremental) will be copied to the tape.

The recommended frequency of running backups:
· cmsadm backups should be run monthly, and before/after any upgrades.
· CMS Full Maintenance backups should be run weekly.
· CMS Incremental Maintenance backups should be run daily.
The cardinal rule of backups applies here - you cannot have too many backups! The last two types
of backups can be run automatically via timetables and require only the effort of keeping track of the
tapes used to make them. The cmsadm backup always requires manual intervention and requires
downtime for the CMS; you’ll never be so glad to have it as when it’s needed.


Hope this explains a bit...

John

 

[scottyjohn]

Thanks John,
Currently we come on site out of hours to do the CMSADM backup once a week. Also there is a scheduled maintenance backup which runs nightly, with the tape being changed in the mornings. I have never had to restore data from these tapes but have been assured by other techs that this would be quite straight forward.
I only have two concerns. Ive been told that the actual CMS database fills up and only holds so many records. This creates the situation where sometimes looking at historical data like login reports, we cant get data far enough back for what we need. Ive been told that this kind of data is not backed up and therefore cannot be restored, is this the case?
Thanks for your help! Hope this helps
John

http://www.eagle-i.co.uk

 

[telcoguy]

ScottyJohn,
The amount of data you collect, and thereby the amount of history is set in your CMS configuration under 'system setup' and then item 'data storage allocation'

The history that you collect is limited by the amount of diskspace you have.
Keep in mind though that the bigger the (Informix)database gets, the slower it might get also.
In the config you will also find how long certain data is kept and how it migrates to summaries

Rob

 

[JZon]

It is possible to load the backup-tapes as a pseudo-acd, this gives you the possibility to view data from a long time ago. I never did it because I only install systems on customers sites. It also means that you have to have a lot of tapes if you want to have detailed historical data.

In the storage data allocation you define how detailed you want to view your data.
Assuming free space is available, the maximum storage capabilities are
as follows:
l Intrahour storage: 62 days
l Daily storage: 5 years (1825 days)
l Weekly/monthly storage: 10 years (520 weeks/120 months).

The length of the intrahour interval affects how much disk space is needed to store the days of intrahour data. For example, if you set your intrahour interval to be 15 minutes, the amount of disk space required is four times larger than if you set your intrahour interval at 60 minutes for the same number of days of data.

John

 

[Scott99]

With the CMSADM backup does UNIX give a message after the backup has been done as to whether it has been successful or not or do you have to enter another command to find this out?

 

[JZon]

It will say that it was succesfull and also gives a name to write down on the label of your tape.

John