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Gartner Group

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What are people's thoughts on the opinions of Gartner Group as "The Voice of IT" and "the leading authority on IT"? Is it a good value of service to subscribers?

RE: Gartner Group

jwillis,

First, not sure if this is the correct forum to post your question in.  There is a forum for people who buy research from Gartner elsewhere on this site.  Not a lot of members and no posting however.

Second, to reply to your question there are a lot of news organizations that want to control folks and try to knuckle them into thinking what they want.  Don't let Gartners claims upset you.  They all do it.

Legacy research outfits are reporting yesterday's hash.

Third,  I've never paid for any information from Gartner personally so they may be the exception to my rule.

Personally, I like keeping my ear to the ground on this site.  Seems to me that the easiest to use products will be the ones to ultimately win out -- despite how much marketing is shoved behind the "clunkers".

Just my two cents.  :-)

Ghost

RE: Gartner Group

Sorry Ghost but I disagree, the easiest to use or the best often gives way to the product with the most push. For example Betmax was a much better product than VHS.
Working in I.T for more than 20 years I have seen some excellent products disapear due to poor marketing or some  bigger company smothering the product.
There is a lesson here and that is to make sure that you do not get locked into one particular technology and/or skill set, what is popular today could be tomorrow's dodo. Keep your eye on new technologies, expand your experince whenever you can, and be willing to take on new challenges.

Ged Jones
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RE: Gartner Group

I agree there are some excellent ideas/technologies that have gotten buried by the "shouters".  But, the focus of my comments was how a "Gartner" type organization tries to influence the war.

The legacy information spinners like Gartner get wined and dined by the technology companies.  Than they turn around and offer "insightful" analysis as to what we are all thinking about it.  They don't really USE the products like the people here.

Well, spinning used to work really well up until about 5 years ago.  Now, more people keep their ear to forums like this to make sure they don't buy the wrong stuff....

All I'm saying is that the shouters will still make their money.  But, there are cracks in their armor and things like Linux just can't be stopped.

Ghost

RE: Gartner Group

Yes, I agree.
I have noticed with the dawn of the internet people are more able to get advice and indformation from more varied sources.
Hopefully we will see more empahsis on things like quality, 'value for money', ease of use' etc.. rather than hard sell and 'back room dealing'.

Ged Jones
gedejones@hotmail.com

RE: Gartner Group

Ged,

AMEN to that!  That "back room dealing" leads to idiot CEO's and "project management" CIO's taking a bunch of crap they get from the "top down push" (slang for Gartners, computer magazines, slick technical sales people, and ego stroking board room storming deals) instead of keeping their ear on the tracks for the "bottom up swell".

How many times have you seen technical professionals go home totally frustrated because some technical decision got made above them and they were told to "just do it".  That's the stuff that makes resumes get updated.  :-)

Sorry about drawling on here, but I've got a VERY sensitive radar for back room dealing.  It drives me crazy.

You know we can't always steer everything the way we want.  But atleast it's healthy to get all the decisions on the table and atleast agree the decision was political instead of some non-technical person jamming charts and white papers down your throat about how wrong you are.

Ghost

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