wireless 3616

[dencom]

Hello all,

I am trying to get a single 3616 into action on a small office. I have one AccessPoint and NO SVP (Spectralink Voice Processor) (AP is only used for this phone so I think that SVP is not required)

The 3616 has been loaded with the latest spectralink files for avaya and in fact is does boot up but it keeps saying that it does not get a respons from the SVP.

Does somebody know 'the undocumented feature' to have the 3616 bypass the SVP?

Thanks


Arnoud

 

[kristiandg]

Oooo, I'd love to know that as well. I bought one for my house and the stupid thing didn't work. I'm glad there's a workaround.

 

[dencom]

According to Spectralink, no matter what, you must always use their SVP, even if you use one phone...

 

[kristiandg]

Thats damn presumptuous of them. What if I had a dedicated Voice Wi-Fi network? Which, I actually do. They need to stop forcing people into that crap.



Kris

 

[mikev80]

My understanding was that the 3616 communicates to an AVPP device via the SVP protocol. And the AVPP just emulates a 4606 ip phone and the IP Office treats the 3616 like a 4606. Has anyone successfully set up a 3616 that can confirm this? I got the information from Spectrelink presale support.

 

[kristiandg]

I believe the phone itself emulates the 4606, not the AVPP. I'm pretty sure the AVPP is Avaya's stickered version of the same box that Spectralink sells for SVP flagging. However, I've talked w/ Spectralink and they've mentioned that in some cases, you do not need the SVP running on the network. That was when you were NOT using the 3616 on an Avaya system. I think its Avaya's way of making sure you don't think the quality sucks.

However, thats pretty gutsy of them to make an ASSumption about my network, and that I'd want yet another protocol running on it.

Oh, well. At least they make money.

Kris

 

[dencom]

Spectralink indicates that they do not aim for the smaller solutions. In fact, if you have a soho connected to the mainoffice using vpn, you need an SVP at the SOHO site and one at the mainoffice (?!). The SVP does a lot of things to ensure that enough bandwith is available for voice. Therefore it will only work with certified AP's. So if you have a cheap wireless dsl router at home and an expensive SVP this might not even work...

Anyway, this is what Spectralink says and it's a pitty that this kind of usefull info is once more not clearly available through certified Avaya channels. Then again, after five years I have given up hope that Avaya will ever learn from it's past mistakes......

Let's hope 802.11e will be available soon so that we have a good alternative for the %#%$@%^$^DECT solutions.

Arnoud

 

[JayNEC]

mikev80 is right. You can do the following on a Definity to verify:
Make a call from a 3616 to another IP station. Status that station and you can view the IP audio path that is coming in. You can see that the IP Hardphone is talking to the ip address of the SVP and not the 3616 for UDP audio. All Sprectralink Comms go through the SVP, not directly to the IP Office or the Definity.

 

[kristiandg]

Interesting....

Kris.

 

[Morrack]

Actually nothing seems to be aimed at the true SOHO anymore. The SOE is riduculously expensive if you don't need VCM resources (hardly any SOHO's do). It would be better named the BOE (branch office edition). Even the legendary Partner system is only a couple of bucks cheaper than a similiar solution with a 403!

I long for the day when all IPO's will come fully loaded with VCM hardware and they introduce (reasonably priced!) per channel VCM licencing instead.

Peter

 

[mikem501]

Hi There, Does anybody knows whether it is possible to have a 3600 series phone connect with an IPO and an SVPP server without the need of an SVP compatible AP?

I am simply testing in the lab and since the SVP server is a mandatory for the phone to work, I just want to know if I can work with a normal AP.

Thanks,

 

[Leemondcomm]

I have had the honour of 2 installs of this system and neither of the sites have been using listed access points.
I would say the only way would be to try.

However is very frsutrating when you are after Tech support and the response is "So which listed AP are you using"


Must say to be honest was impressed with the results good system and not had any fall overs yet!

 

[mikem501]

Thanks for the support Leemondcomm. I am ordering the 10-user model SVP server to conduct a lab test with an IP Small Office and the scenario where I am installing them is in a large area of 1sq Km and the APs being used luckily enough are the listed ones Proxim Orinoco AP200.

For the lab test I am going to use a normal AP. I will check, but from the feedback I saw on this forum, these phones are the best ones available.
Hope to achieve the same results.

Cheers.