iandoreeninvan
Programmer
I'd appreciate some help in configuring /
troubleshooting a home network.
I have three PCs.
First. Runs Win XP Pro.
I wish to use this as a server for the
home network & also to access internet
via internal modem.
Second. PII running Win98. I wish to connect this
to first Pc for file sharing, backup
& use when first PC busy or burning
CD's etc.
Third. PII laptop running Win98. I don't need
this on the network. Might be nice
later but low on the priority list.
I'm pretty sure the cabling is ok & network cards
work ok ( see later)
Background.
-----------
The network was ok for about 3 months, then last
year had some hardware probs ( CD burner carked it).
& I couldn't find my xp pro install CD ( cursed later
when I found it in the CD drive - real SNAFU.
XP broke ( i forget the exact messages ) & i had to
do a repair ( using a different - ie later version
SP1 ? of Xp Pro). Also have had to remove viruses,
spyware, adaware. Therefore i've changed services
running, etc & used msconfig.
I eventually got XP back but without the network. I
tried all sorts of fixes including setting domains etc.
I think now that I really need to remove domain settings
and revert back to a workgroup. ( I'm still learning
Xp - if you hadn't guessed that).
I have been trying various newsgroups, the microsoft
knowledge base articles, google searches, etc to find
what I have broken & how to fix it.
I've used diagnostic tools etc as per knowledge base article
314067 but my problem is that I dont know how to interpret
them.
From memory I had to disable the 'Norton personal firewall'
before running these tests.
The tests show me that the network cards etc & cabling are ok.
I've also run the Manual Troubleshooting scan/test 'netsh diag gui'
I've included some of the results below. Maybe you blokes can point
me to the solution for my problem
Regards
Ian C
*** ipconfig /all on the Xp machine
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Athlon
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
Ethernet adapter IanHomeConnection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-6E-7A-26-9B
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
***
*** ipconfig /all on the Win98 pc
Windows 98 IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . : IAN486
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No
0 Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : Realtek 8139-series PCI NIC
physical Address. . . . . . : 00-05-1C-13-82-BD
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.4
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . :
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
*** end ipconfig /all on the Win98 pc
ping 127.0.0.1
*** worked ok, i think on both pcs ***
*** pinging Win98 pc from Xp machine
Pinging 192.168.0.4 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.0.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Ping statistics for 192.168.0.4:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
*** end pinging Win98 pc from Xp machine
*** pinging Xp pc from Win98 machine
Pinging 192.168.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Ping statistics for 192.168.0.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 1ms, Average = 0ms
*** end pinging Xp pc from Win98 machine
Ping the IP address of a remote host to verify that you can communicate through a router. Use the following
command: ping IP address of remote host
*** as noted above this works ***
*** when i ping 'athlon' from the Win98 pc,
An unsuccessful ping at this stage can indicate that the remote host is not responding or that there is a problem
in the network hardware between computers. Use Ping again but to a different remote host, to
eliminate the first possibility.
Ping the host name of a remote host to verify that you can resolve a remote host name. Use the following
command: ping Host name of remote host
Ping uses name resolution to resolve a computer name into an IP address. Therefore, if pinging by IP address
succeeds but pinging by name does not succeed, the problem is host name resolution, not network
connectivity. Check to ensure that DNS server addresses are configured for the computer, either
manually in the properties of TCP/IP, or assigned automatically. If DNS server addresses are listed
when you check through the use of "ipconfig /all", then try pinging the server addresses to ensure
that they are accessible.
*** i think this is the area where my problems occur.
i get a little confused with domain/passwords etc issues & DNS & lmhosts &
Netbios over TCP/Ip etc & how I should configure all/some of these items
& which ones matter for my little network
i'll attach more outputs from some of the utilities. I forget which utilities but
the network guys should recognise them.
The original workgroup was called CHRIS ( after the bloke who built the pc for me).
i may have confused this with domains etc & have domains CHRIS and/or ATHLON ?
---
ping athlon
Pinging athlon [192.168.0.1] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Ping statistics for 192.168.0.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
[*** ian so knows athlon *** ]...
*** more outputs from Xp pc.
===========================================================================
Interface List
0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
0x10003 ...00 0c 6e 7a 26 9b ...... VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter
===========================================================================
===========================================================================
Active Routes:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
192.168.0.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.1 20
192.168.0.1 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 20
192.168.0.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.1 20
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.1 20
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.1 1
===========================================================================
Persistent Routes:
None
---
Shared resources at \\athlon
Share name Type Used as Comment
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
bb Disk
BrotherH Print Brother HL-730 (600 dpi)
Ian Disk
Instals Disk
old pc Disk
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed with one or more errors.
---
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Athlon
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
Ethernet adapter IanHomeConnection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-6E-7A-26-9B
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
----
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Athlon
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
Ethernet adapter IanHomeConnection:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-6E-7A-26-9B
---
*** ian - currently, I'm gonna retry repair etc after i post these messages ***
---
Pinging 127.0.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
---
Ping request could not find host CHRIS. Please check the name and try again.
---
**** end more outputs from Xp pc.
***
*** I got the following error when i had a look at ipsec
the network address translator [NAT] was unable to request an
operation of the kernel-mode translation module. this may indicate
misconfiguration, insufficient resources, or an internal error.
the data is the error code 1747
the IPSEC services service terminated with the following error:
the authentication service is unknown.
***
*** i could also post a list of the processes listed by Asusprob.
i've added notes against the processes running &
packman's portal comments..
***
troubleshooting a home network.
I have three PCs.
First. Runs Win XP Pro.
I wish to use this as a server for the
home network & also to access internet
via internal modem.
Second. PII running Win98. I wish to connect this
to first Pc for file sharing, backup
& use when first PC busy or burning
CD's etc.
Third. PII laptop running Win98. I don't need
this on the network. Might be nice
later but low on the priority list.
I'm pretty sure the cabling is ok & network cards
work ok ( see later)
Background.
-----------
The network was ok for about 3 months, then last
year had some hardware probs ( CD burner carked it).
& I couldn't find my xp pro install CD ( cursed later
when I found it in the CD drive - real SNAFU.
XP broke ( i forget the exact messages ) & i had to
do a repair ( using a different - ie later version
SP1 ? of Xp Pro). Also have had to remove viruses,
spyware, adaware. Therefore i've changed services
running, etc & used msconfig.
I eventually got XP back but without the network. I
tried all sorts of fixes including setting domains etc.
I think now that I really need to remove domain settings
and revert back to a workgroup. ( I'm still learning
Xp - if you hadn't guessed that).
I have been trying various newsgroups, the microsoft
knowledge base articles, google searches, etc to find
what I have broken & how to fix it.
I've used diagnostic tools etc as per knowledge base article
314067 but my problem is that I dont know how to interpret
them.
From memory I had to disable the 'Norton personal firewall'
before running these tests.
The tests show me that the network cards etc & cabling are ok.
I've also run the Manual Troubleshooting scan/test 'netsh diag gui'
I've included some of the results below. Maybe you blokes can point
me to the solution for my problem
Regards
Ian C
*** ipconfig /all on the Xp machine
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Athlon
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
Ethernet adapter IanHomeConnection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-6E-7A-26-9B
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
***
*** ipconfig /all on the Win98 pc
Windows 98 IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . : IAN486
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No
0 Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : Realtek 8139-series PCI NIC
physical Address. . . . . . : 00-05-1C-13-82-BD
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.4
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . :
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
*** end ipconfig /all on the Win98 pc
ping 127.0.0.1
*** worked ok, i think on both pcs ***
*** pinging Win98 pc from Xp machine
Pinging 192.168.0.4 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.0.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Ping statistics for 192.168.0.4:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
*** end pinging Win98 pc from Xp machine
*** pinging Xp pc from Win98 machine
Pinging 192.168.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Ping statistics for 192.168.0.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 1ms, Average = 0ms
*** end pinging Xp pc from Win98 machine
Ping the IP address of a remote host to verify that you can communicate through a router. Use the following
command: ping IP address of remote host
*** as noted above this works ***
*** when i ping 'athlon' from the Win98 pc,
An unsuccessful ping at this stage can indicate that the remote host is not responding or that there is a problem
in the network hardware between computers. Use Ping again but to a different remote host, to
eliminate the first possibility.
Ping the host name of a remote host to verify that you can resolve a remote host name. Use the following
command: ping Host name of remote host
Ping uses name resolution to resolve a computer name into an IP address. Therefore, if pinging by IP address
succeeds but pinging by name does not succeed, the problem is host name resolution, not network
connectivity. Check to ensure that DNS server addresses are configured for the computer, either
manually in the properties of TCP/IP, or assigned automatically. If DNS server addresses are listed
when you check through the use of "ipconfig /all", then try pinging the server addresses to ensure
that they are accessible.
*** i think this is the area where my problems occur.
i get a little confused with domain/passwords etc issues & DNS & lmhosts &
Netbios over TCP/Ip etc & how I should configure all/some of these items
& which ones matter for my little network
i'll attach more outputs from some of the utilities. I forget which utilities but
the network guys should recognise them.
The original workgroup was called CHRIS ( after the bloke who built the pc for me).
i may have confused this with domains etc & have domains CHRIS and/or ATHLON ?
---
ping athlon
Pinging athlon [192.168.0.1] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Ping statistics for 192.168.0.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
[*** ian so knows athlon *** ]...
*** more outputs from Xp pc.
===========================================================================
Interface List
0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
0x10003 ...00 0c 6e 7a 26 9b ...... VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter
===========================================================================
===========================================================================
Active Routes:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
192.168.0.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.1 20
192.168.0.1 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 20
192.168.0.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.1 20
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.1 20
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.1 1
===========================================================================
Persistent Routes:
None
---
Shared resources at \\athlon
Share name Type Used as Comment
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
bb Disk
BrotherH Print Brother HL-730 (600 dpi)
Ian Disk
Instals Disk
old pc Disk
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed with one or more errors.
---
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Athlon
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
Ethernet adapter IanHomeConnection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-6E-7A-26-9B
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
----
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Athlon
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
Ethernet adapter IanHomeConnection:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-6E-7A-26-9B
---
*** ian - currently, I'm gonna retry repair etc after i post these messages ***
---
Pinging 127.0.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
---
Ping request could not find host CHRIS. Please check the name and try again.
---
**** end more outputs from Xp pc.
***
*** I got the following error when i had a look at ipsec
the network address translator [NAT] was unable to request an
operation of the kernel-mode translation module. this may indicate
misconfiguration, insufficient resources, or an internal error.
the data is the error code 1747
the IPSEC services service terminated with the following error:
the authentication service is unknown.
***
*** i could also post a list of the processes listed by Asusprob.
i've added notes against the processes running &
packman's portal comments..
***
