Win 98 se upgrade

[owen10]

I have a friend who is currently running 98 FE on their machine. Having got a copy of 98 se, thought an upgrade was a good idea, however they have an OEM copy so could not install.

Any ideas or tips to get around this, or is it just a case of getting a non oem copy?

Thanks,

 

[mattjurado]

They have an OEM copy of FE or SE? What happened when you tried to upgrade?

Is the SE an upgrade disk or a full install?

If they are having problems, and it is a full install, use a boot disk to format the drive, and then reinstall a clean OS. Of course, you'll have to have a backup of data first, and make sure you have all driver disks on hand.

I never like the idea of upgrading. You'll just be likely to upgrade whatever problems you are having to the new OS, and you may have new problems.

Matt J.

Please always take the time to backup any and all data before performing any actions suggested for ANY problem, regardless of how minor a change it might seem. Also test the backup to make sure it is intact.

 

[owen10]

Thanks for the response Matt.

Win 98 FE (full copy) is currently running on their machine. They have purchased a 98 se upgrade (oem version)and when trying to update, get the error SU0168 - Cannot be upgraded with this version of setup. You need to obtain the windows 98 upgrade. Ideally, don't want to reformat and start again.

Any ideas?

 

[cdogg]

Owen,

This is important: [blue]Does the OEM 98SE disk say "upgrade" on the CD cover[/blue]?


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[jfp23]

If 98fe is fully patched than you shouldn't need to upgrade to SE an unless you have an app that requirese SE.

 

[TekTippy4U]

You sure it's not the 98SE "Updates" CD?

Most want to get around as issue by using an "Upgrade" disk to do a Clean Install
Here's a very informative link posted by cdogg in the past

http://www.plasma-online.de/english/help/solutions/windows9x_upgrades.html

Here's another attempting to explain what you want to do;

http://www.plasma-online.de/english/help/solutions/windows9x_upgrades.html

use at your own risk

TT4U

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[TekTippy4U]

BTW;
Here's a great site for anything - and this page explains all the diffs in versions

http://www.mdgx.com/win.htm

TT4U

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[owen10]

FAO cdogg, The Cd says Windows 98 second edition for PC's without windows. For distribution with new PC only.

The second edition needs to go on because when using Word Perfect (don't ask!)it says Win98 Gold edition is not a supported operating system.

Any more suggestions?

Thanks for your help,

 

[owen10]

Thanks for the wesite links also. Good info, but not sure if the problem I have is down to Word Perfect or whether the OS needs to go to 98SE?

Thanks in advance.

 

[TekTippy4U]

Owen10;
AFAIK the one and only thing that you can't add to FE is the ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) Component....everything else is upgradeable without trying to use the SE disk as an upgrade. The stupid WP app (though good word processor) is probably checking the version number against some win98DLL or win.com perhaps or some setting in the REG.

little experiment;
Start > Run REGEDIT
drill to
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion
click Registry menu - click Export Registry File
Save as OrigVer.reg in any location you like
then
locate value "VersionNumber" in right pane
right click and choose Modify
change it to read 4.10.2222 from 4.10.1998
close Regedit and Delete all files in TEMP/HISTORY/RECENT/ and even right click IE Desktop Icon and choose "Delete Files" and "Clear History"
Reboot and try the installation of WP again

What is it that you need WP to do? or what does it say it "can" do, that needs SE?

TT4U

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[TekTippy4U]

when exporting (copying) the reg key - HKLM\...\...\CurrentVersion
just make sure to select to highlight that Key in left pane, so you're not exporting the whole HKLM key. Though it wouldn't hurt - it'll be extremely large to try and view or edit - whereas minimal key exportation is the way to go for viewing/editing.
For such a "small" minor change it's probably not even necessary, but a good habit to get into nonetheless

TT4U

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[edfair]

You have the clean install CD, not the upgrade. So it is upchucking because it found win.com.
You could try renaming win.com to win.old or something else and try again. Depending on what the FE install put in place it may go. You'll overwrite anything that has the same name but should retain the tieins to programs.
BUT YOU WILL BE AT SEVERE RISK!!! Your OS may not want to work again. Or it may upchuck on the install and make everything unusable. Some require more than the win.com rename to be accepted. Had to pull the desktop off the windows directory on one, had to kill the registry on another to do it. Overlay the new install to the same directory, not the replacement it suggests. And don't let it do any filesystem manipulations.
It probably would be better to do the install from HD installed cab files so you don't get any of the garbage that SE normallly tries to install from the CD.

Ed Fair
Give the wrong symptoms, get the wrong solutions.

 

[cdogg]

Owen,

You have an OEM 98SE CD, that's it. It's not an upgrade CD. So with it, you can really only do one thing - clean install. That means formatting the hard drive and installing from scratch.

The other option that's not recommended is renaming win.com and then running setup. It's a risky alternative (sometimes rendering applications useless), but it would work preserving non-system data on your drive.

At this point though, I would troubleshoot the Wordperfect issue first and see if there are any alternatives to get it installed on Win98 FE.


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[owen10]

Thanks for your all your help with this. I'll look further into the application rather than the OS. Don't really want to start from scratch!

Cheers.