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WAN thru phone line without internet

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thameema

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I have a requirement..please give me some tips...
I would like to run a server at our library which will serve information to users. The users can dial in to library server to access it using thier phone line and 56k modem. We don't want to use internet or any kind of networking other than using the existing phone line.

My question is, Is it possible to achieve this? If I want to setup this kind of networking, what should i do? I prefer this way, because my hometown the internet charges are higher and the users can benifit by paying only local phone charge.

Thanks,
Thameem
 
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what you are talking about is a BBS system it can be done but Im not the one to tell you how

you might want to check over in the computer forums or maybe evan run a ad locallly or talk to your local computer groups

back in the 80s and early 90s there were lots of folks running BBS off pc's in there homes if you could hook up with one of these folks they could guide you thruogh it
 
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Hi Skip,

I dunno what you are refering to. what is BBS?

Anyway, I found some options in windows 2000. When I setup a new connection thru networking options, there is an option to allow incoming calls. I haven'e tested it yet. I don't think this will be fast enough and can handle more than one user. So, if someone knows any other method, please post here.
 
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You can only have 1 user per phone line in a dialup scenario like your are describing. The internet would be the cheaper option to have multiple concurrent users. Otherwise, you'll need a remote access server and a bunch of lines at $30e per month.

-CL
 
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To start with this would not be a WAN.
What skip mentioned "BBS" means Bulletin Board System.
You really need to provide more info, like what type on information you are trying to provide, how many users would require access. If this would be a system providing a lot of info to many users, dialup may end up being to costly.
If it's only for one or 2 people, who use it occasionally you may be ok. You must also be carefull when setting up remote access, in that you want to have your security set up properly.
 
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one user per phone line but one or two lines may just fine for what you are proposing

if one or two users are on than the client gets a busy and just trys again later.

I used to log into them in the 80s and early 90s and I knew sevral sysop (system opersators) they were run out of bedrooms on 286 and 386 boxs with one or two phone lines.

I kinda miss them for local news and chat.

my local library has one of the best sites i have used it is over the net and not a BBS check it out
 
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Hello guys,
THanks for the reply. Kressmark's suggestion gave me some ideas. Kress - To answer your question, I need to provide just a webaccess (running apache or equivalent) nothing else to those users. As Skipp mentioned in his mail, I would like to setup a library website which will not be in internet but should be accessible by users who can dial-in directly to our library phone. I would like to handle atleast 30-40 users per line. Is it possible? I am sure there must be something to achieve this.

I said no internet, because this library will be setup in an area where the internet is not popular and is costlier. I hope you guys understood....

I am expecting more replies....

Thanks,
-Thameem
 
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Hi thameema,

Unfortunately with dial-up networking it is one user per line at the time. Maybe you mean 30-40 users per day?

Why are you going for Apache if you have a Windows 2000 system? IIS 5.0 is included.

Best Regards
Mattias Kressmark
 
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I would also go with Apache over IIS.
You really ought to rethink the "No Internet" policy. Paying for 40 telephone lines, and modem banks and whatnot will probably be far more expensive than to get a DSL or Cable connection with a static IP. Hell, you can even get Dynamic with one of those DNS that follow your IP.
I think that would save you a lot of headache....

Thanks,

Matt Wray
MCSE, MCSA, MCP, CCNA

 
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since its a libarary check with the isps and see if they offer special rates

I just lost a equipment sale to a school district becouse they found out about a special tax funded program thruogh the local telco wher the telco supplied the lines, and equipment and picked up 80 % of the cost

you may be able to get your internet connection through programs simialar to this

off course im assuming you are in the us

where are you located ?
 
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Again I ask, What type information are you going to try to provide with this. If you are jsut going to have a web based card catalog so they can see if a book is avaiable, and you think you might have 30-40 people occasionally checking, you may be fine with 1 phone line. If you are going to have a lot of information for them to browse through you might not.

Of course if its like the first thought I put here, an old style bbs might be just the thing. It would require way less resources than web based.
 
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Guys,

As I said earlier in my post, I am not in US and the location is in India. Our village don't have internet and if I want to get one it will be costlier. But people use computers for learning. I would like to start with internal library kind of thing within the village and may be in future to expand to internet.

I have another idea. Is this possible to achieve with cable modem. Because there are cable companies they already did wiring for broadcasting. Can I use the existing network to give access to users with authentication like AT&T is doing in US? I think that is doable. If so, what are the things to be taken care off? Please advice me...Simply I want to setup WAN thru cable and people can use cable modem to access my server without dialing.

-thameema
 
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if your users already have modems in their computers what are they using them for ?

 
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Hello guys,

I think no one understand my question. Matt - Thanks for letting me that if someone has cable modem that is internet. Please read my previous question and replies before you answer any question. It is funny that you are just throwing some words without understanding the question...

I don't want to discuss further about this topic here as no one is ready to give the real answer. I will find some other forum to get some good help..Thank you everyone for your support.

-thameema
 
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Mattwray
"If you can get a Cable modem, that is the Internet"
NOT SO....
The cable providor has to have a tie to the internet for it to be.
thameema
An intranet (local village) could be developed utilizing the cable, but it may be more costly than just using a RAS (dialup) system.
 
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Not to mention, you can't just throw networking gear at some existing cable and have it work. They spent 2 years upgrading all of the cable lines in my area to enable cable modem support. If this is a "less than state of the art" area as implied, I think that implimenting a cable network would be the most expensive option yet.

-CL
 
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Who said anything about a cable company providing a cable modem?
He stated that there was cable installed in the village and posed a question. I think you are reading stuff into this.
 
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