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Trying to reload wndows 98 after a format and fdisk
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Try the following:
1. Format the drive
1.5 fdisk /mbr
2. sys c:
3. mkdir c:\win98
4. copy d:\win98 c:\win98
5. reboot
6. c:\win98\setup.exe
See if that helps any... As always, I hope that helped!
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1. Format the drive
1.5 fdisk /mbr
2. sys c:
3. mkdir c:\win98
4. copy d:\win98 c:\win98
5. reboot
6. c:\win98\setup.exe
See if that helps any... As always, I hope that helped!
Disclaimer:
Beware: Studies have shown that research causes cancer in lab rats.
win98 setup can be run from the cdrom, but first you will need to either a: delete your exeisting partition (fdisk) or b: rename your win.com file to say win.old, set your biao to boot from cdrom as your primary boot option and the select the option from the menu that will be loaded from there.
hopr this helpsX-)
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boot sector ?. or do you mean it cannot find the drive you want to install win98 from.
if you are installing using the boot disk made with win98 it should load the cd rom and ask if you want to run with the cd rom driver loaded.
can you be more descriptive of the install sequence. when you fdisk you have to set a partition(s) and set the main partition as active
also you have to format after the fdisk and install the system files from the floppy win98 boot disk..A:/ format C:/s this puts the command.com interpretor on the machine. than you can install from the cd rom.
if this cd rom is not an original win98 cd rom, you will have to point to the setup.exe file to get the install working.
if you are installing using the boot disk made with win98 it should load the cd rom and ask if you want to run with the cd rom driver loaded.
can you be more descriptive of the install sequence. when you fdisk you have to set a partition(s) and set the main partition as active
also you have to format after the fdisk and install the system files from the floppy win98 boot disk..A:/ format C:/s this puts the command.com interpretor on the machine. than you can install from the cd rom.
if this cd rom is not an original win98 cd rom, you will have to point to the setup.exe file to get the install working.
thedudemann
MIS
I have an old packard bell 75Mhz pentiumII processor w/ 16mb of ram. I just want to
know, what steps would i go through to upgrade to Win98? I already have another
computer too, a Dell w/Win 98. Step by step, what process would have to be done in
order for it to work succesfully? Is it worth it? Also, there may be a major physical
damage to the computer. When I run scandisk, I can see maybe 20-30 bad clusters on the
hardrive. Is there a way around this? Or do I need to get a new hardrive, too?
know, what steps would i go through to upgrade to Win98? I already have another
computer too, a Dell w/Win 98. Step by step, what process would have to be done in
order for it to work succesfully? Is it worth it? Also, there may be a major physical
damage to the computer. When I run scandisk, I can see maybe 20-30 bad clusters on the
hardrive. Is there a way around this? Or do I need to get a new hardrive, too?
1) I wouldn't recommend that you try to install Win98 on the hardware you described. I doubt that setup would be successful. If you managed to succeed, you would end up with a system that performed very poorly, if at all.
2) Keep a close eye on your hard drive. Run scandisk frequently. If disk errors continue to show up, consider transfering your critical files to a different computer. I have seen "cascading" disk errors on several older systems: day one, 1 error; day two, 4 errors; day three, 64 errors; day four, hard drive inaccessible. They die quickly.
Alt255@Vorpalcom.Intranets.com
2) Keep a close eye on your hard drive. Run scandisk frequently. If disk errors continue to show up, consider transfering your critical files to a different computer. I have seen "cascading" disk errors on several older systems: day one, 1 error; day two, 4 errors; day three, 64 errors; day four, hard drive inaccessible. They die quickly.
Alt255@Vorpalcom.Intranets.com
CitrixEngineer
Technical User
Alt255, it's a bit pot-luck in the Win98 arena!
I managed to get Win98 + Office 97 running (not walking!) on an Elonex PC33.
Spec:
Proc 486DX2 66Mhz
RAM 16Mb (4x4Mb 32-pin)
Disk 2Gb Seagate
Video Diamond Speedstar 2Mb (ISA)
Soundblaster 1.0
I wouldn't put this on a network, though!
(Just thought you'd be interested ;-))
Cuznmark - your suggestion is exactly what I would think. A partion needs to be made active, using fdisk, then the disk needs to be formatted, before an operating system can be installed.
I managed to get Win98 + Office 97 running (not walking!) on an Elonex PC33.
Spec:
Proc 486DX2 66Mhz
RAM 16Mb (4x4Mb 32-pin)
Disk 2Gb Seagate
Video Diamond Speedstar 2Mb (ISA)
Soundblaster 1.0
I wouldn't put this on a network, though!
(Just thought you'd be interested ;-))
Cuznmark - your suggestion is exactly what I would think. A partion needs to be made active, using fdisk, then the disk needs to be formatted, before an operating system can be installed.
CitrixEngineer, It never ceases to amaze me that just as soon as you get a handle on what is possible and what just won't work, somebody comes along and proves you wrong. It must have required a major tweak! Office 97 is known for swallowing and digesting 486's whole, leaving no trace that they ever existed. And Win98... it seems like I attempted an installation on a 16mb machine, it told me the memory was woefully lacking with an SUWIN error and aborted the setup.
Whatever tweaks you used would certainly be worthy of a FAQ (and they might address some of the more common setup issues). Thanks for correcting my error.
Now, if I can just stop scratching my head....
Alt255@Vorpalcom.Intranets.com
Whatever tweaks you used would certainly be worthy of a FAQ (and they might address some of the more common setup issues). Thanks for correcting my error.
Now, if I can just stop scratching my head....
Alt255@Vorpalcom.Intranets.com
CitrixEngineer
Technical User
Alt255 - I'm not trying to show anyone up here, I just think that it depends on how the PC was put together.
I've built 2 such PCs, one that my girlfriend uses every day at college and one I have lying around the house to prove to techie doubters that it CAN be done!
The only "tweak" I really used was to configure the swap file to be set at 50Mb min and max, to reduce fragmentation.
I've tried it on other 486-based PCs with varying results!
Maybe the secret of this PC lies in the construction - it has a daughterboard riser, on which the processor sits, and the processor itself is surrounded with cache chips. Maybe because the cache is on the same bus as the processor it runs at the same, or, at least, a very high speed. At 66Mhz, it's quicker than the slowest pentiums
We timed it shutting down at 6 seconds. Starting up and using Office apps (Word and Excel - let's be fair!), you couldn't tell it apart from a DELL Optiplex GN1 with a 200Mhz processor.
The benchmark results tell a totally different story, but the actual usability is fine.
As I said above, much of what W9x runs on and won't run on is pot luck. Remember the original specs for w95? A 386DX with 4Mb RAM :-D
I don't think (but I might well be wrong) that the SUWIN error message means that there is not enough RAM, but rather not enough conventional memory (first 640k).
I'll do an FAQ on installing operating systems, though - good idea, Thanks!
I've built 2 such PCs, one that my girlfriend uses every day at college and one I have lying around the house to prove to techie doubters that it CAN be done!
The only "tweak" I really used was to configure the swap file to be set at 50Mb min and max, to reduce fragmentation.
I've tried it on other 486-based PCs with varying results!
Maybe the secret of this PC lies in the construction - it has a daughterboard riser, on which the processor sits, and the processor itself is surrounded with cache chips. Maybe because the cache is on the same bus as the processor it runs at the same, or, at least, a very high speed. At 66Mhz, it's quicker than the slowest pentiums
We timed it shutting down at 6 seconds. Starting up and using Office apps (Word and Excel - let's be fair!), you couldn't tell it apart from a DELL Optiplex GN1 with a 200Mhz processor.
The benchmark results tell a totally different story, but the actual usability is fine.
As I said above, much of what W9x runs on and won't run on is pot luck. Remember the original specs for w95? A 386DX with 4Mb RAM :-D
I don't think (but I might well be wrong) that the SUWIN error message means that there is not enough RAM, but rather not enough conventional memory (first 640k).
I'll do an FAQ on installing operating systems, though - good idea, Thanks!
CitrixEngineer
Technical User
I was completely wrong about SUWIN errors - turns out they cover a multitude of problems!
(There are several links here because I could not authenticate any of these as an official source. They are just the first 3 that Google provided. I include them as a cross-reference source - don't take any of them individually as gospel!)
Regards
(There are several links here because I could not authenticate any of these as an official source. They are just the first 3 that Google provided. I include them as a cross-reference source - don't take any of them individually as gospel!)
Regards
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