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yeah, that's the software I was talking about. Tried downloading it with Mozilla (Netscape) on both linux and os x and both times it failed to gunzip properly. If you say you've had no problems, then I guess I'll try with internet explorer.... maybe it's a browser issue?
Are there any other free programs out there?
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Are there any other free programs out there?
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Well, the purpose of this would be to remotely control an gui based application while still allowing it to be remotely controlled as well. I've seen this done with PC Anywhere and desktop sharing through Netmeeting and Windows Terminal server. I think there's an application which does it for linux, but I don't know for sure. VNC, at least for linux, doesn't really solve the problem, since you then need to connect to VNC as if it were remote, even when it is running locally.
I'm guess I'm just in disbelief that Microsoft offers something extremely necessary and useful for tech support/sys administration for free with their operating system and Apple doesn't.
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I'm guess I'm just in disbelief that Microsoft offers something extremely necessary and useful for tech support/sys administration for free with their operating system and Apple doesn't.
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Disbelief? Maybe Apple OS doesn't really need that much tech support ![[tongue]](/data/assets/smilies/tongue.gif "[tongue] [tongue]")
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Even though I've got WinXP Pro sitting in front of me, I have not attempted Windows Remote Desktop Services or Terminal Services so I may not be relating on the same plane of thought but I find VNC perfectly suited for this.
The remote and local user have equal control over the keyboard and mouse in VNC - - which makes for some entertainment when the client and host users wrestle for power. The host and client software can also set remote connections to view only and refuse input. The nice thing about VNC is its small size and the variety of platforms that it supports. You can create a floppy disk with both the server and client.
VNC servers/hosts can be installed on any platform - - even as far back as Win95.
I'm not sure what you mean by "since you then need to connect to VNC as if it were remote, even when it is running locally". Why would you want to connect to your own desktop?
.Even though I've got WinXP Pro sitting in front of me, I have not attempted Windows Remote Desktop Services or Terminal Services so I may not be relating on the same plane of thought but I find VNC perfectly suited for this.
The remote and local user have equal control over the keyboard and mouse in VNC - - which makes for some entertainment when the client and host users wrestle for power. The host and client software can also set remote connections to view only and refuse input. The nice thing about VNC is its small size and the variety of platforms that it supports. You can create a floppy disk with both the server and client.
VNC servers/hosts can be installed on any platform - - even as far back as Win95.
I'm not sure what you mean by "since you then need to connect to VNC as if it were remote, even when it is running locally". Why would you want to connect to your own desktop?
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Hi Jim,
Sounds like from your description that VNC works differently (and better) on OS X than linux. As I said I've only used it on linux, since I can't seem to get a non corrupted version of it for mac. Basically on linux, VNC runs it's own X-Server which does not connect to any real video output. To view this X-Server you have to log into it using a VNC client. So, it is impossible to have a locally viewable desktop in VNC for linux. I believe there is another program (or a hacked version of VNC) out there that does allow this for linux, but I haven't had the need to look for it.
I think it might be helpfull if I describe the particular situation I planned on using desktop sharing... maybe you have a better solution for me? I have a powerbook that during parties or house cleaning or whatever I connect to my sterio using Y-cable. I want to be able to both be able to control the music I'm playing using Itunes on the powerbook itself as well as from my other computers, located at various places throughout the house. The powerbook is the only mac, and the pcs are running linux (latest redhat distro) and Windows XP. Oh and I'm using a wireless lan to connect all the computers, if you were curious.
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Sounds like from your description that VNC works differently (and better) on OS X than linux. As I said I've only used it on linux, since I can't seem to get a non corrupted version of it for mac. Basically on linux, VNC runs it's own X-Server which does not connect to any real video output. To view this X-Server you have to log into it using a VNC client. So, it is impossible to have a locally viewable desktop in VNC for linux. I believe there is another program (or a hacked version of VNC) out there that does allow this for linux, but I haven't had the need to look for it.
I think it might be helpfull if I describe the particular situation I planned on using desktop sharing... maybe you have a better solution for me? I have a powerbook that during parties or house cleaning or whatever I connect to my sterio using Y-cable. I want to be able to both be able to control the music I'm playing using Itunes on the powerbook itself as well as from my other computers, located at various places throughout the house. The powerbook is the only mac, and the pcs are running linux (latest redhat distro) and Windows XP. Oh and I'm using a wireless lan to connect all the computers, if you were curious.
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Ahhh - and I thought your application of VNC was for some noble purpose like technical support...
VNC will definitely work here. I have done the same.
There are also programs out there that are designed specifically for remote operation of iTunes. Check versiontracker.com for these as well. I have never used them and do not know if they work with Windows.
Here's what I have done for tunes through the house... I have a wireless audio transmitter attached to my PC (Recoton, $50). It broadcasts to cigarette-box-sized receivers that can be worn like 'WalkMen' while working in the yard or connected to the home stereo in the living room.
VNC will definitely work here. I have done the same.
There are also programs out there that are designed specifically for remote operation of iTunes. Check versiontracker.com for these as well. I have never used them and do not know if they work with Windows.
Here's what I have done for tunes through the house... I have a wireless audio transmitter attached to my PC (Recoton, $50). It broadcasts to cigarette-box-sized receivers that can be worn like 'WalkMen' while working in the yard or connected to the home stereo in the living room.
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First off, let me just say as a smoker I love the fact that you called it "cigarette-box-sized".
Secondly, who says listening to illegally downloaded mp3s with your friends isn't noble.
thirdly (now that I'm on this whole counting thing), $50 is just way too much to pay to avoid walking the 20 feet from my bedroom to my living room.
okay, sounds like I should just keep trying to download the mac version of vnc. I'll try out those remote controling of itunes, but without even looking at them I would bet they would only work with other macs. It's not so important that the controlling program be able to run on windows, but linux compatibility is essential.
Thanks for your help.
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Secondly, who says listening to illegally downloaded mp3s with your friends isn't noble.
thirdly (now that I'm on this whole counting thing), $50 is just way too much to pay to avoid walking the 20 feet from my bedroom to my living room.
okay, sounds like I should just keep trying to download the mac version of vnc. I'll try out those remote controling of itunes, but without even looking at them I would bet they would only work with other macs. It's not so important that the controlling program be able to run on windows, but linux compatibility is essential.
Thanks for your help.
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I'm not sure if this version tracker's style, but I noticed that they have both the 0.6 and 1.11 versions of OSX-VNC. I just downloaded 1.11 and it works great.... no longer will I be forced to leave my bedroom to change the music in the living room.
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The archive that I downloaded included a text file and shell script to install it as a service. I forgot what distribution I used. I think it came from sourceforge.net
The details can be found in the install.txt file at:
The details can be found in the install.txt file at:
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