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rj11c or rj14c
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franklin97355
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You should get and use the standard for the jack you plan to use. It's not required and will work if you don't but it wi;; save you headaches in the future if you ever change the system. (like install or upgrade to a system thet uses two pair)
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fonehome, what type of system?
In my experience... we always wired RJ14 with the inner pair being blue, and the outer pair being orange -- wrapped the green and brown back onto the cable sheath, and terminated it on an 8 pin category 3 jack. From there we used standard 4 pin patch cords, which will fit into an 8 pin jack. That way... if we ever needed anything with more pins, we could punch those extra pairs down, or if we needed to split the green and brown to a second jack to get two jacks out of the cable -- we could do that too.
6 pin will work as well, although somewhat random.
In my experience... we always wired RJ14 with the inner pair being blue, and the outer pair being orange -- wrapped the green and brown back onto the cable sheath, and terminated it on an 8 pin category 3 jack. From there we used standard 4 pin patch cords, which will fit into an 8 pin jack. That way... if we ever needed anything with more pins, we could punch those extra pairs down, or if we needed to split the green and brown to a second jack to get two jacks out of the cable -- we could do that too.
6 pin will work as well, although somewhat random.
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AvayaNovice
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Executone is on the money. They sometimes need to be wiggled a bit, but I've never had a real problem.
For cat-3 voice jacks @ 8pin, I've always used ICC jacks. Super cheap, keystone compatible, and they seem to fit well.
What type of phone system are you using?
Older Avaya/Lucent phones will work with 8 pin patch cords, newer Merlin and Definity sets (excluding the ISDN sets, which aren't really new...) will use up to a six pin patch cord. All partner sets (to my knowledge) can use an 8 pin cord, as well as the older ISDN sets or I believe MLX sets in the case of a Merlin system.
Correct me if I'm wrong on that...
I think the move from 8 to 6 pin jacks on the phones themselves was due to data networking becoming more and more prominent, so they were trying to de-confuse end users who may have accidentally plugged their phone into a network jack, although I know that most cabling contractors always wire to 8 pin, and for that matter -- most all of them wire to cat 5 or 6 now, so what's the difference.
For cat-3 voice jacks @ 8pin, I've always used ICC jacks. Super cheap, keystone compatible, and they seem to fit well.
What type of phone system are you using?
Older Avaya/Lucent phones will work with 8 pin patch cords, newer Merlin and Definity sets (excluding the ISDN sets, which aren't really new...) will use up to a six pin patch cord. All partner sets (to my knowledge) can use an 8 pin cord, as well as the older ISDN sets or I believe MLX sets in the case of a Merlin system.
Correct me if I'm wrong on that...
I think the move from 8 to 6 pin jacks on the phones themselves was due to data networking becoming more and more prominent, so they were trying to de-confuse end users who may have accidentally plugged their phone into a network jack, although I know that most cabling contractors always wire to 8 pin, and for that matter -- most all of them wire to cat 5 or 6 now, so what's the difference.
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