Registry and pagefile taking too long to boot 1

[dignick]

Hi,
Firstly this is a great forum, Peoples solutions have already helped me a lot, but I can't find anyone else in this situation.
After The windows loading screen starts, the screen goes blank. This is normal, but what is not normal is the fact it stays blank for 121 seconds. I downloaded and ran bootvis, and firstly ran a boot+driver trace. It rebooted as it normally would, very quick, for the first time ever. So there can't be much help in the trace file there . After this, out of interest, I performed a standby trace. Before then, the system hadn't been able to go into standby, it kept jumping back out for no apparent reason. It went into standby perfectly. Then I ran just a boot trace, and the problem reoccured again, but at least I had traced it. It is the registry and pagefile that is taking all this time to load, during which there is only regular squirts of about 30% processor activity, but no other activity (HD etc.)
Any help on how to reduce this time?
Thanks
Nick

 

[bcastner]

When was the last time you defragged?

For the registry, perhaps a trial of Advanced Registry Optomizer:

http://www.systweak.com/aro/

I must admit to not having defragged my registry in several years, but I do clean it twice a year using this tool:

http://www.vtoy.fi/jv16/shtml/jv16powertools.shtml

It would be worthwhile doing at least the native XP defrag utility, a "lite" version of Diskeeper Workstation. My Computer, right-click on your hard drive, Properties, do a Disk Cleanup from the main page, then Tools, and schedule the defragger.

 

[dignick]

I bought this PC new a week ago from components. As far as I can remeber this problem has been present from the start, or just after the start.

 

[dignick]

I could give you a bootlog, but its a bit lengthy so say so if you want me to post it. Also in shut down, hibernate is not there, I have looked at the microsoft KB article, where it says hold down shift, but this does not work, and the first and only time it has ever gone into hibernation is when I told bootvis to do a hibernate trace. Strange thing is that all of these things work when I tell bootvis to trace them, but not when I tell it to optimize them.

 

[bcastner]

I cannot think of a better time to defrag than right after installation. This is particularly true of the registry. You may never need to do this again, but now is the best time. Bootvis does not optomize the registry.

Bootvis will do nothing about defragging or optomizing the location of your pagefile either, but the general defrag utility will help.

If you have enabled the power options, including hibernation through control panel, Power Options, and hibernate does not appear even with the Shift key, I suspect during installation of XP it chose the wrong power model for your computer. The whole restart, shutdown and hibernate issues are related to how well your BIOS and XP interact during installation of XP.

Look through these troubleshooters:

Shutdown issues, including power model issues with installation of XP:

http://www.theeldergeek.com/shutdown_issues_in_xp.htm

Microsoft's Troubleshooter:

http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...Q308029ldergeek.com/shutdown_issues_in_xp.htm

 

[dignick]

Thanks for that, but having read the article on elder geeks, I have discovered that my bios had been detected perfectly, as an ACPI multiprocessor PC (Hyper-threading). I am going to try to defrag, but I can't see it will help as it has rebooted normally before. Thinking about it, does anyone know what bootvis changes to the bootup procedure during a boot+driver trace? I also defraged/cleaned my registry last night, but it changed nothing.
One thing that it could be is conflicting hardware. Because I don't want to type it out here, visit

http://nickscoolsite.tripod.com/screendumps/conflicts.gif

to see all of my hardware conflicts and sharing. Probably one of them is bieng a problem.
I don't know if this is at all related, but when performing direct3d tests in direct x 9's diagnostic tool, it keeps cancelling the test, and saying I pressed a key, and this cannot be true because I have unplugged the mouse so it doesn't detect any movement. Maybe the same thing is pulling it out of standby?
Also, my PC will not start any games, it keeps jumping out of them, just like it would out of standby.
Hibernation is enabled, but if it doesn't appear in the shut down menu, I don't know how to enter it.
Thanks again
Nick

 

[wooglin]

Per the earlier post, you can also download the latest version of jv16 power tools at jv16.org

Better than norton when it comes to registry cleaners.

 

[dignick]

Sorted it - as I suspected, Conflicting IRQ's. USB controller and SATA controller conflicting. Disabled the usb and it worked, games, standby/hibernation (Standby does change to hibernation when you press shift) and startup. Direct x problem still not sorted, and can't get a demo of conflict desert storm 2 to work, but others do. Need now to figure out how to change the IRQ. You can't change it in device manager, even if you are an administrator, so I have contacted motherboard manufacturer for support. Any Idea's?

 

[bcastner]

The issue is likely the USB device, and in particular its Host Controller. To be able to assign IRQs you would have to move completely away from the APCI power model with a re-install of XP. And this certainly is not going to help the hibernation issue.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;810400

It is possible a chipset level driver patch, and/or device patch for the particular USB device will solve this without trying to manually edit IRQs outside of the APCI power model. Look thoroughly through this site, as it is more than a little disorganized:

http://www.usbman.com