robsuttonjr
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Has anyone tried getting ReactOS on a phone and using Foxpro on the phone?
Regards,
Rob
Regards,
Rob
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Rob,
No, but thanks for pointing this possibility out. I didn't know it existed until you posted this message. It will be interesting to see if VFP will run on any device, but if it runs on a phone, that will be COOL.
Will check it out.
Best Regards,
Scott
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No, but thanks for pointing this possibility out. I didn't know it existed until you posted this message. It will be interesting to see if VFP will run on any device, but if it runs on a phone, that will be COOL.
Will check it out.
Best Regards,
Scott
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"Everything should be made as simple as possible, and no simpler."
I suspect that is going to break the EULA
Regards
Griff
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Regards
Griff
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I was thinking the VFP EULA - isn't it tied to Windows Based OSs
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Griff
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Griff
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I don't think so... so long as you don't recompile it to work on a different OS, there should be no issue.
If an OS is compatible with Windows applications, (and I'm thinking technically VMWare would also apply in this case), it shouldn't matter. If it runs, it runs.
Best Regards,
Scott
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"Everything should be made as simple as possible, and no simpler."
If an OS is compatible with Windows applications, (and I'm thinking technically VMWare would also apply in this case), it shouldn't matter. If it runs, it runs.
Best Regards,
Scott
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Olaf Doschke
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Yes, it is.
The situation has changed, though. VFP deprecated, there are no sales anymore beside MSDN subscription bundled (no idea if even that has ceased). MS also did not react (no pun intended) to the Chinese 64bit VFP yet, too. So in retrospective, this reaction to Whil Hentzen was quite over the top. 2003 they may not yet have planned the end of VFP.
So this might become a case of running VFP apps on cheaper devices without OS license costs and sell a device with preinstalled VFP software, not just the software. The question is: Who would buy such a ReactOS based device without a dedicated app store for it? Or could it run with MS store? That may apply to ReactOS, but would still be a hurdle to put VFP apps on it, even though theoretically VFP apps could even run on both ReactOS and Windows devices, just limited to the desktop device types.
In regard to MS Store there was that possibility to include legacy desktop apps, but I never saw anybody to put on a VFP app there.
Bye, Olaf.
The situation has changed, though. VFP deprecated, there are no sales anymore beside MSDN subscription bundled (no idea if even that has ceased). MS also did not react (no pun intended) to the Chinese 64bit VFP yet, too. So in retrospective, this reaction to Whil Hentzen was quite over the top. 2003 they may not yet have planned the end of VFP.
So this might become a case of running VFP apps on cheaper devices without OS license costs and sell a device with preinstalled VFP software, not just the software. The question is: Who would buy such a ReactOS based device without a dedicated app store for it? Or could it run with MS store? That may apply to ReactOS, but would still be a hurdle to put VFP apps on it, even though theoretically VFP apps could even run on both ReactOS and Windows devices, just limited to the desktop device types.
In regard to MS Store there was that possibility to include legacy desktop apps, but I never saw anybody to put on a VFP app there.
Bye, Olaf.
Mike Lewis
Programmer
I remember the Whil Hentzen / Linux case very well. There was a great deal of discussion at the time about whether Microsoft could or would take any action. It certainly wans't a foregone conclusion. And if that was the case in 2003, it's even less likely today. (Whil had been pushing the idea of running VFP on Linux for some time before the story broke. I think he pretty well abandoned it after that.)
Mike
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I don't think I would invest much in writing something new to run on this - with the cloud of an M$ injunction hanging over me.
But if I had something someone was interested in, no idea why they would be, then I might try it out.
Regards
Griff
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But if I had something someone was interested in, no idea why they would be, then I might try it out.
Regards
Griff
Keep [Smile]ing
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I'm trying to cut down on the use of shrieks (exclamation marks), I'm told they are !good for you.
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Olaf Doschke
Programmer
I already posted here I'm rejecting the use of the 64bit VFP"10" on the basis if it's illegality, there are copyright laws beyond just an agreement.
Well, an EULA also is legally binding, I understand that, but the basis for that agreement has changed. Windows isn't a major product to lose sales of. So legality aside, there is less concern to sue from MS.
Besides, in case of a contract you don't sign by buying in Germany, there already have been lawsuits in Germany MS lost, IIRC about the legitimacy of reselling a Windows version, especially bundled OEM, as used software, without also reselling the hardware it once was bundled with when originally buying the OEM version. So, for example, you can sell your Windows when your computer broke and you needed a new one with a new Windows version, the license is not lost with the end of life of the hardware.
There always are higher laws governing with higher priority over any specific contract of two parties. And as long as nobody sues it is an open question whether the binding to an OS is really a valid stipulation MS can enforce, the current nature of Windows and the deprecated state of VFP makes it even more likely to win that case, if you ask me, because one day it may even become an essential reason to move over to ReactOS or similar or stay with older Windows versions, if you need to run your applications and they stop working on new versions. And in regard to the unsafe state of older unsupported Windows versions, you might go for ReactOS instead of Win10, so that'd not be a strict argument for MS to force you staying on the Windows platform. Can they force you to stop your old system? Can they force you to run on an unsupported unsafe Windows version, if there may still be a safe ReactOS version running it? That's perhaps an advantage of entering the realm of oldtimer status, perhaps more about the business relevance status. The stupidity of the business owner rather is about staying with old systems in general and not innovating regularly.
So the downside I see: Old software might never get that protection status as oldtimer cars, though. And the line of arguing also fails, if you explicitly plan to do new things on this platform and are not just conserving the working state of an old software.
Bye, Olaf.
Well, an EULA also is legally binding, I understand that, but the basis for that agreement has changed. Windows isn't a major product to lose sales of. So legality aside, there is less concern to sue from MS.
Besides, in case of a contract you don't sign by buying in Germany, there already have been lawsuits in Germany MS lost, IIRC about the legitimacy of reselling a Windows version, especially bundled OEM, as used software, without also reselling the hardware it once was bundled with when originally buying the OEM version. So, for example, you can sell your Windows when your computer broke and you needed a new one with a new Windows version, the license is not lost with the end of life of the hardware.
There always are higher laws governing with higher priority over any specific contract of two parties. And as long as nobody sues it is an open question whether the binding to an OS is really a valid stipulation MS can enforce, the current nature of Windows and the deprecated state of VFP makes it even more likely to win that case, if you ask me, because one day it may even become an essential reason to move over to ReactOS or similar or stay with older Windows versions, if you need to run your applications and they stop working on new versions. And in regard to the unsafe state of older unsupported Windows versions, you might go for ReactOS instead of Win10, so that'd not be a strict argument for MS to force you staying on the Windows platform. Can they force you to stop your old system? Can they force you to run on an unsupported unsafe Windows version, if there may still be a safe ReactOS version running it? That's perhaps an advantage of entering the realm of oldtimer status, perhaps more about the business relevance status. The stupidity of the business owner rather is about staying with old systems in general and not innovating regularly.
So the downside I see: Old software might never get that protection status as oldtimer cars, though. And the line of arguing also fails, if you explicitly plan to do new things on this platform and are not just conserving the working state of an old software.
Bye, Olaf.
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