"Largest executable program size"

[DaveRobD]

hey,
ive just formated my 166 and i want to put win 98 onto it insed of the predious win 95, unfortunatly now that ive pulled the format and trying to run 'setup' from dos prompt im getting an error message :
"windows setup requides 'Largest executable program size' to be at least 442368."
im very confused ive surfed the net trying to find out what it is and the most i can find is that it is a deficit in the memory used for running dos based programs and that in order to run the setup i have to increace it. unfortunatly the only results i get say that it has to be fixed in windows and i dont have windows installed and it wont install, so baisicly im screwed if i cant fix this prob please help me!!
cheers
D@V£

 

[mattjurado]

At what EXACT point does this pop up?

Try copying the win98 folder by using a dos boot disk that has cdrom support and xcopy on it. Then type sys c: to make the drive bootable, restart off the hard drive, and run setup that way.

http://www.bootdisk.com

Matt J.

 

[DaveRobD]

when i run setup from the cd it says setup initilizing then gives me the error

 

[cdogg]

You formatted the drive, but do you know if it's FAT16 or FAT32? How much hard drive space do you have?

I'm curious that you might want to use fdisk to delete the current partitions, and recreate a new one.

Also, how are you running setup. Did you boot up with a Win98 startup disk to get access to the CDROM?

~cdogg
[tab]"All paid jobs absorb and degrade the mind"
[tab][tab]- Aristotle

 

[BionicJohn]

Sounds like the Himem drivers are not loading and so you can not access mempry beyond 640K.

Hitting F8 during boot up gives you the chance to answer Y or N to every single line in CONFIG.SYS and after that as to whether you will run all of AUTOEXEC.BAT or not.

(I think that's right, it's so long since I've done it - feel free to confirm or correct me).



Iechyd da! John
Glannau Mersi, Lloegr.

 

[DaveRobD]

ive run fdisk and created a new partion but 2 no avail the drive im trying to install to is a 2Gb and i imagen it is fat 32 but im not absolutly sure. i booted from the startup disk and then ran setup from the cdrom. yeah ive gone through the step by step config but im not sure how that helps??
cheers i hope this info helps
D@V£

 

[cdogg]

Are you using a true Win98 boot disk, or are you using an old Win95 disk?

~cdogg
[tab]"All paid jobs absorb and degrade the mind"
[tab][tab]- Aristotle

 

[DaveRobD]

im useing a win 98 boot disk i got off bootdisks.com

 

[cdogg]

Check this link out:

http://www.kenjun.com/blog/index.php?textid=92

~cdogg
[tab]"All paid jobs absorb and degrade the mind"
[tab][tab]- Aristotle

 

[DaveRobD]

seen it already, but when i dir/w on c: it comes up as the drive is empty, which it is there for there should be nothing to delete surely? or am i missing somethin?
D@V£

 

[edfair]

Is there a config.sys on the floppy? Is there a line calling himem.sys in the file? Does himem.sys exist on the floppy and does it indicate that it operates correctly?

And a dos=high,umb?

You might also let himem.sys test memory. If you have a memory problem that is affecting the 640kb base that would affect the amount available.

Ed Fair
Give the wrong symptoms, get the wrong solutions.

 

[cdogg]

DaveRobD,
At this point, it seems that the boot disk you're using is the problem, probably with an entry in either the config.sys or autoexec.bat files.

~cdogg
[tab]"All paid jobs absorb and degrade the mind"
[tab][tab]- Aristotle

 

[DaveRobD]

there is a config.sys and himem.sys on the disk but when i try and run them it gives me the error; cdr101: not ready reading drive e. which is even more confusing because it was working when i started this thred i have 2nd HD wich is 14 Gb which wont format or run fdisk, im so confused. ive just added new ram could this me the source of all my probs? the Mobo only suports 64mb and ive got a 128 and a 32 in running @ 64 but it worked fine wen win 95 was installed, i can whip it out if it will make ne diffrence.
cheers
D@V£

 

[edfair]

You could try it with the 32 by itself. That would answer the question.
When config.sys starts loading stuff you should get some screen displays. First , the himem.sys then later the CD driver sets, one of which should say that it found a CD and is using a driver of some name. Then when autoexec.bat processes you should see MSCDEX reporting that it has identified the CD as drive (X). In your case, since you have a c: d: and E: on the hard drive and a ram disk probably loaded as f: then the CD should be G:.

The fact that is shows a message as e: indicates that your system has identified c: only, with d: as ramdisk, and e: as CD. But you need to verify this speculation.

And the error message there may indicate a problem with the drive.

Ed Fair
Give the wrong symptoms, get the wrong solutions.

 

[DaveRobD]

i got the cd drive to work, i took out the 128Mb RAM and the cd can be acessed through the e: drive as for MSCDEX it dose makes no refrence to a cd in the drive. i also
re-ran 'setup' but still came up with the same error 'Largest executable program size'. d: is the ramdisk so what has happend to the 14Gb drive? or is it just using that disk and as a place to store info rather than on c:?
Cheers
D@V£

 

[edfair]

But you haven't told us what himem.sys is doing or answered the other questions.

How are we to help you, if you won't help us.

You evidently don't have identifyable drives at D: and E: yet. Like maybe fdisk failed to assign them correctly.
You could use fdisk and look at the partitions to see what is there.

Ed Fair
Give the wrong symptoms, get the wrong solutions.

 

[DaveRobD]

when i try to run them (himem + config) i get a bad command or file name, am i running it correctly?? E: is identifiable its the cd drive its acessable and i just cant run anything on it but i can see all the files. as for D: i dont know what its doing, i can read it fine aswell. Fdisk runs on d: but i cant get it to delete a partition and format it says its not supported. have u ever come across the error i mentiond before? and if so how did u deal with it?
cheers
D@V£

 

[edfair]

config.sys calls the himem.sys. If you are getting errors there it is because you are missing himem.sys or the line in config.sys is pointing to the wrong place.
config.sys automatically runs (unless stopped by you). You can't run it yourself and himem.sys is a driver that only runs from config.sys.
The D: you see is the ramdisk. It is set up as the first device beyond the resident hard drives that the OS can find. So, you are being told that your extended partition, or your logical drives are flawed.
And no, you won't be able to run anything off the CD on e: until you resolve the memory problem you have.
I suspect, but don't know for sure, that the problem relates to your 640mb of base memory being consumed by DOS and the drivers. Particularly by the DOS.
I would suggest another boot disk for the OS version you are trying to install. Get himem installed and CD support, then try again.