PROBLEM installing BDC ! 1

[jcck2003]

Hi All:

I kept on running into this annonying problem not sure if anyone has seem this (if any one still using NT)

I tried to setup a test lab with NT PDC and BDC to test our real product environment, to do so I need to install two NT servers to , you guessed, a PDC and a BDC, the PDC install went through fine, but when I get to another computer to install the BDC, NT failed to detect/install the NIC driver so it kept on saying it cannot locate the domain that I suppose to join when installing the BDC, I have tried three different brand of network card, Netgear, SMC and 3com, still not working, but I I specified it to installed as a PDC everything went through fine


I remember long time ago I used to install NT BDC to a Dell server that went through easily because the NIC gets detected right away in the setup, I know I used to have one ISA nic that also gets detected right away in NT, but these days its really hard to find a PC with ISA port

anybody have any suggestion ?

Thanks !
JDK

 

[outonalimb]

NT4 Server cannot see your NIC because the install CD/Software is older than the card you are installing.

Download the latest NIC driver for NT4 from the manufacturers web site. Put it onto a floppy disk and when you get to the network card installation screen during NT4 setup, choose to install a new card/driver.

This will let NT4 see your card and let you get onto your test network.

 

[jcck2003]

that's what I did, but it is like NT still need a good reboot to see the new driver

 

[mattjurado]

What does this mean? "it is like NT still need a good reboot to see the new driver"

Either it uses the driver you specify during setup, and then you load NetBEUI, or configure TCP/IP, or it doesn't. It should then find the PDC no problem.

Matt J.

 

[jcck2003]

it just says "cannot locate the domain" right away, after I typed in the password, it didn't even spend time looking, NetBUEI is selected, I even used an old ISA NIC, a kind that NT would detect on its own but no luck, its still telling me the same thing

thanks

 

[chronos1]

jcck2003 - just a question. Have you installed TCP/IP protocol on the BDC and configured it with an ip address and subnet mask compatible with the PDC? e.g. if the PDC ip address is 173.30.15.1 then the ip for the BDC could be 173.30.15.2 - Unless you've configured the PDC to act as dhcp server?



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[jcck2003]

YES, I set the BDC with a static address on the same subnet as the PDC

(just randomly picked with 111s, just easier to type)

ie.
PDC:
IPA: 111.111.111.99
SM: 255.255.255.0
DG: 111.111.111.1

BDC: 111.111.111.111.129
SM: 255.255.255.0
DG: 111.111.111.1

I managed to get PDC to see BDC once but other times the NIC just not working at all, I noticed the BDCs likes computer with ISA slot even without any adapter installed on that slot( will take the PCI NIC driver), it just works a little better, but the PC with ISA slot is sub-500Mhz, not sure if they are good for testing

JCCK2003

 

[chronos1]

Well, seeing as ip is set and correct drivers are loaded - the only alternative seems to be a dodgy NIC.

To test this - get a spare NIC - install that on the BDC for the time being and see if that connects - shouldn't matter just for testing purposes. If it does then the NIC you were using before is faulty.

let me know if this works.

good luck

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[jcck2003]

Hi chronos1 :

no the NIC is not faulty because it works when I install a NT PDC and windows 2000, the BDC doesn't see to work if I tried to install it on a newer PC without an ISA port, the same NIC works on a pc with an ISA port

JCCK2003

 

[DG659]

sounds like youve got a hub/switch issue

set your NIC`s both to 10mbs half duplex use a cross over cable just to test maybe hub/switch isnt 10/100 auto sensing.
ISA card wll prolly only be 10mbs and pci is prolly 10/100 tho auto sensing isnt all that great on some cards ,check cables

 

[jcck2003]

the switch (dell powerconnect) is 10/100 auto sensing, I checked the cable it works on the PDC

thanks

 

[ssitech]

I was having the same problem and it ended up that I was missing that the default subnet mask that it was using was 111.111.0.0 and my network was on 111.111.111.0. I made the correction and it found it right away. I was racking my brains for 3 days with this. Hope this helps you.

Chris