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New Features in Partner R8? 1

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I keep hearing about Partner R8 -- the release of which seems to be imminent. Has anyone heard or does anybody know about new features, enhancements with R8?

Some past releases have been sort of "anti-climactic". I'm hoping there's something worth being excited about!
 
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I work for an AVAYA Business Partner & just signed up with AVAYA/Catalyst for a 1 hour webinar on the ACS R8. I don't know if it will be more tech. or sales geared but it should be interesting.
 
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Wireless phones with 8 programmable keys, repeaters that require pwer only to extend the range, UMI support for SMTP and XP Pro.
 
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- Caller ID for anaolog stations
- Network Clock Syncronization
- Absent Text Messaging (6 fixed and custom text)
- Personalized Station Ringing
- Integrated SMDI
- SIP trunking, with use of 3rd party equipment
- 3920 Cordless phone (1.9 GHZ) with up to 3 wireless repeaters and 6 programable buttons.
- Voicemail to email for Windows XP
- Upgradable from R6 and R7 converting programming to R8.
- Still same Partner format (509 Processor)

GA sometime in April, 3920 available in May.

 
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3920 phone- 8 programmable buttons (including 2 intercom)
 
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still using two pair wiring ?
 
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SIP with 3rd party hardware......Couldnt I use that on an ACS R1 then?????? Multitech just braeks it down to analog trunks...


Except for the new cordless, I was severely disappointed with the R9 features.

When will these morons learn the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT FEATURE NEEDED NOW....AN UPGRADE PATH

Customer with a Partner II, outgrown it, If I can re-use the Partner sets, I have a lock sale. BUT, now that they need new phones, they shop everyone. IPO too expensive against other TDM systems, and Partner too big.

RON(Rogers), DO SOMETHING.... this is rediculous

OH YEAH....Partial PRI circuits...customers like them...you should too

 
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I saw a picture that showed something that looked like a 6400 series telephone alongside a Partner... I liked the look of that.

I'm not really impressed with this new release.
 
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telecomtekperson
I used SIP lines that come out of an ATA box for the last 2 years so it is not that it didn't work it was just not a supported solution from Avaya.
your Partner phone requirement on other systems is nice but will not happen, IP Office would be the next step up and I don't want Partner phones on IP Office, I have enough to do with IP Office as it is and helping customers to run Partner phones on it would be just another headache, like the ETR on Magix that function just a little different then the 4400 sets.
Avaya is looking at the sales numbers at a whole and your one sale if they support Partner sets on other systems will probably not justify the 2 million dollar (low estimate) of developement cost for it.
I have wishes for the Partner system too but take what I can get, LAN administration for one, good remote access

Joe W.

FHandw., ACS

If you can't be good, be good at it!
 
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My very short wish list is I'd like to see Avaya use 25 pair Amphenol connectors for station ports like they used with Magix TDL boards.

If it ain't broke, I haven't fixed it yet.
 
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Westi, I understand the headaches we have all felt on the ETR phones on magix. But they still function as phones on the upgraded system. My sales guys know when to use ETR, and when to use 44xx.

And it's not just 1 sale. Every Partner system that a customer wants to upgrade or add a few more phones, cant...because we have given them no path. I dont know how many Refurbished Magix and refurbished IP offices we have sold in the past year, to give a cheaper upgrade, rather than lose the customer.



 
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maybe they read this and rethink their position on this, don't get me wrong if they do it I will use them and I will get my fair share of cursing and swearing until I am used to them and our sales team will make the odd sale more then without it, but if you want an IP Office then you are in a totally different money bracket and generation of phone system. SIP on Partner is not going to be revolutionary with the ATA in front. If Avaya implements a LAN port and has it working that way then we are on the right path.
Every customer asks for VoIP systems even if they run 4 PC's on a hub and if you can tell them they are ready for the future then they are happy with the price for Partner.
I guess we all want everything for cheap, made in China, lol


Joe W.

FHandw., ACS

If you can't be good, be good at it!
 
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I'm grateful that we still have Partner, period - it came close to being discontinued a few years ago. The general public seems to believe that all things VOIP are the future, and invariably ask about IP whenever we begin discussing their requirements for a new system. The carpetbaggers who used to sell mortgages are now foisting hosted systems on the great unwashed. Ron Rogers is my god - if it weren't for him, we'd all be pulling our hair out trying to troubleshoot network problems caused by over-eager IT jerks putting their noses and fingers where they don't belong.
 
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Oh yes, I remember seeing Express. Their name pops up every so often over at another tech help site I participate in. The only problem with their version is that it is limited to 10'. There may be times when a longer assembly is needed.

In those instances, I would need to punch down on an intermediate 66 Block and extend using a standard 25 pair cable. I like to keep things as simple as possible and minimize punch down points (even when using a distribution arrangement).

If it ain't broke, I haven't fixed it yet.
 
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They will custom make them longer if asked. I had them customize my IP Office cables.
 
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The solution to that situation is to have the cable equipped with an Amphenol/Cinch connector on the free end, and use an extension cable of whatever length needed to reach the block.

I make my own cable harnesses for the Partner and Legend switches. But it would make a difference if Avaya had designed the modules with the ribbon connectors.

A lot less spaghetti on the backboard!

How is the quality on Express Comms cable assemblies?

....JIM....
 
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The comments I've seen elsewhere tend to be generally positive about Express Comm's cables but, of course, there are always exceptions.

I once tried to make my own harness for a Partner ACS R6 processor, but it ended up a mess. Now that I have access to a large spool of plenum 25pr cable, I may try it again. The hardest part for me is cutting the pairs to the correct length before applying the heat shrink and crimping on a connector.

If it ain't broke, I haven't fixed it yet.
 
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