Learn to cable and tips 2

[chiefred]

I was thinking about putting together a manual, complete with photos ---sort of a "cabling for dummies" to teach interested people the basics--plus a section for residential tips or "how to's", commecial tips, tools needed for cabling and a few of the standards.
Maybe its just me--but I have never really seen a book, guide or manual that taught the basics and covered all types of installations along with tips and terms. Is there something out there that does have all this? Would I be wasting my time?

 

[cdeer]

I for one would like to see something like this. How about a section or two on telephone wiring?

 

[Servamatic]

There are numerous good manuals out there, try taking a look at bicsi.org for starters. You will find everything you ever wanted to know about cabling done right in the BICSI Cabling Installation Manual.

Richard S. Anderson, RCDD

http://www.servamatic.net

 

[chiefred]

Your right Richard---there are many manuals but it seems that no one manual covers all aspects of cabling--Residential, Industrial, or Comercial. They are either TO technical or not thorough. Not many tell you:
a.how to use a pull string or tie on a second pull string.
b.how to make a mouse on string and get it through conduit.
c.how a cable tester works
d.how to install mudrings
e.what to use to drill through an aluminum top plate

and I am sure I wont have all the answers but I will try and address everything that most people are curious about.
Coaxial, Telephone, Stereo, Data, something for everyone---from the novice to the experienced.

If there is a great "explain all" manual, I have not heard of it and there are a lot of people that ask questions here. So that sort of cements my belief that there is a need.

 

[Servamatic]

Have you seen the BICSI residential Manual?
Although I have some issues with some of the content, it is a good beginners manual.
All that said, I have a wealth of this type of info, having written and/or edited training programs for BICSI and others.
I would be happy to work on this with you, if you like email me through my web site.


Richard S. Anderson, RCDD

http://www.servamatic.net

 

[exverizon]

My only suggestion is that you not make it SO thorough that we find ourselves out of work!

 

[chiefred]

Ha ha----I dont think I could ever make it that thorough---but if I can fill it with some great tips, some of the things that make the work simpler, so that from the novice to the expert--all can get something from it----then I think it will benefit everyone, cabler and the consumer.

I just hope I am not biting off more than I can chew.

 

[daronwilson]

That is a very agressive project, and it seems you are somewhat reinventing the wheel. My hat is off to you, truely, but wow that is a lot of work.

I thought before there should be a basic setup like that for various phases of what we do. Much more of a do it yourself type of book, lots of good illustrations, etc. It just seems like no one really shows you how to get it done in the field completely.

Fortunately here in Oregon the work requires a license, which certainly doesn't mean that the person knows how to do the work, but...they should have been exposed to a variety of journeymen with different methods as well as a fair amount of book learning.

One thing for sure, post it here (if you dare) and you can be sure it will be torn apart and tested from every angle!

good luck

It is only my opinion, based on my experience and education...I am always willing to learn, educate me!
Daron J. Wilson, RCDD
daron.wilson@lhmorris.com

 

[Jtodd]

Daron,

Side note: you mentioned being in Oregon, can I email you regarding the LE licence?

Justin

Justin T. Clausen
Physical Layer Implementation
California State University, Monterey Bay

 

[buitenhek]

Dear Chiefred,

Let the following magazines know you are doing this and they may want to publish your efforts.
Good Luck

http://www.cablingbusiness.com/

http://cim.pennwellnet.com/home.cfm

http://www.cabling-design.com/

Regards
Peter Buitenhek
Profit Developer.com

 

[chiefred]

Thanks -- I enjoy advice and hope that I can draw a lot of tips and suggestions from all the contributors here. Tools, clarification on standards, new products, anything you can think of---it will all be helpfull.

Meanwhile this is growing faster than a Mt. Mckinnely Avalanche, I just hope I can keep from getting buried.

 

[DTSMAN]

Try this web site.

http://www.datacottage.com/

 

[trabra]

Chiefred:

Take a look at Mike Sandman's site

http://www.mikesandman.com

and check out his "Installation Secrets" video. I think this is in line with what you are trying to produce and my be what your looking for. He has the gadgets to boot!

 

[chiefred]

http://www.sandman.com

That is a great site. With a plethara of information. Thanks
After much of the feed back and talking with friends in the business around the country---I mean REALLY talking with them, and reading what Daron Wilson said about re-inventing the wheel, as well as a few back and forth emails from Richard Anderson, I realize that this is a project that would not be unique---as I have found many books and manuals by other cablers, cable companies, Schools, and people that have published their interpretations and tips. I dont know how I could avoid plaguerism or stepping on a few toes, and that is not my intention.
I just wanted a simple book that would teach cabling and cabling practices very simply. then I saw it was already out there--- Mikes Basic Guide to Cabling Computers and Telephones. It has everything I was thinking of putting into a book. He also wrote another book called -- Mikes Basic Guide to Cabling Computers and Telephone: In Home and Apartments.
So--I am calling it a day on another brilliant idea that fizzed out. However, Thanks for the comments, info and support. I think I will go back to developing my idea for targets in the urinals.

 

[Sphoneman]

I think that was invented also, I remember years ago trying to to hit the bullseye.

I have come up with a few brainstorms myself over the years just to find out that someone else invented,patented or copywrited them.

I was just born 100 years too late.

Steve
tele-dataservices.com

 

[jeffmoss26]

I have one of those Mike's books. It is one of the worse books I have read, but that's just my opinion. I feel that it is out of date and the drawings are hard to see.


jeff moss

 

[chiefred]

I wonder if others feel the same way---that might inject me with a little confidence

 

[RandyVSP]

If you write something, please stress the importance on NEATNESS, following a standard CODE, some DOCUMENTATION, and plan for future expansion...

Then again, Ive made alot of money because others have been so sloppy....LOL

Randy

 

[chiefred]

I too always pull a few extra cables depending on the site or situation--or I do some upselling for expansion---just for ease of the next call for help. Thats a good point---and housekeeping is always mandatory on my jobs---I stress that to anyone I have under my wing

 

[naturl]

ChiefRed
The "Mouse on a string..." I have not heard of that phrase. Will you elaborate please?
Bob

Why is there never a phone in the phone closet?