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Lan 1 Lan 2 Question 2

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ronromano

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Mar 30, 2005
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I have a 406V2 here in the office. The IPO, VM are hosts on my network on the same subnet as all the other PC. Don't have and Vlans. Everything is in the same 10.0.0.0 range and the Mask is 255.255.255.0.

My IP phone is set to a staic IP address and I have gone in and set all the settings. When my IP phone is rebooted, it looks for HTTP and fails because I haven't set it and then it finds the TFTP server and grabs the 46xxsettings and the 46xxupgrade file and everything works great.

Now I'm setting up a 500 and trying to use Lan1 for the IPO and VMPro/Manager/TFTP server via Manager and Lan 2 for IP Phones. I have Lan 2 set for DHCP server and are having the IP phones get IPs from Lan2.

Here is the question: Why in this scenario is the TFTP timing out? The phone in the setup is comming up and working fine but I don't understand why TFTP is timing out. The display on the phone shows the correct TFTP address so it is getting it from the IPO but it times out. I have been told this is normal but I don't agree because my system isn't doing this.

I think it is routing between the Lans but I am not sure where I am making the mistake.

Your help is appreciated.
 
There is no router to route between the two VLANs.
If you have a switch with routing capabilities better as IP Helper then you can use the switch, otherwise you will need a additional router.

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Do you have an iproute that points to lan2 ?

I think that your tftp is coming from the vmpro machine ?



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Intrigrant, why can't I create a route in the IPO?

tlpeter, I have tried that but it wont work.

IPO Lan 1: 10.0.0.33
IPO Lan 2: 192.168.43.1

TFTP 10.0.0.114

How would you set route?
 
I have had similiar problems and I do not think the IP500 acts as a router despite being able to enter IP Routes, If you put the WAN and LAN ports in the same range it will not bridge the traffic either! I tested both these scenarios and even Ping would not get through never mind data traffic!

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You need an IP route between the two lans. Also check tha the IP500 has given out the correct LAN address as router!

You may need to turn of NAT too



Take Care

Matt
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.
 
Thi IPO DHCP server is unsuitable for anything more than 5 devices - dont use it!
 
>The IP Phone has 0.0.0.0 as gateway

Thats part of your issue, it needs to point to the LAN2 of the ipo

Likewise the gateway of the TFTP srerver needs to point to LAN1 of the IPO

Take Care

Matt
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.
 
OK I won't. I think maybe I need 2 routes. One so the phone can find the TFTP server and one so the TFTP can send back the files.
 
I can tell you with NAT on, the phone won't come up at all!
 
Matt, I know I can do it via the phone setting, but shouldn't it get it via the IPO the way it knows the TFTP? I didn't tell the phone What the TFTP was but it knew it.
 
I think you may need to add a static route in the tftp machine to tell it to return traffic for lan2 subnet. It probably doesnt know where to send traffic for the lan2 subnet.

I do this

in cmd

route add 192.168.78.0 mask 255.255.255.0 192.168.77.1 -p

this route tells the machine to return any traffic for the 78.0 subnet via my IPO on 77.1

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Likewise the gateway of the TFTP srerver needs to point to LAN1 of the IPO

Take Care

Matt
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.
 
Here is another thing when I check options, all the IPs are in there except the file server. yet when the phone boots it knows to try 10.0.0.114.

I'm calling Ayava, this LAN 1 Lan 2 crap has been bugging me for 3 year I want to know now.
 
I tried the following with the IP500

2 x IP500 sat next to each other

#1: LAN1 200.0.0.98, LAN2 200.0.9.97
#2: LAN1 200.0.9.98, LAN2 192.168.42.1

I had #1 LAN2 connected via switch to #2 LAN2.

I could not get these to connect SCN. I couldn't access either system when going through the other one.

I tried all manner of IP Route settings but no joy.

It was inly to set up a new SCN in the office before taking to site to test Advanced Networking. Got bored of trying to get it to work.

Jamie Green

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Jamie
>I tried all manner of IP Route settings but no joy.


Did you try Rip? It'll do it for you!

Take Care

Matt
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.
 
Can't remember. Tech support couldn't get it working either.

Jamie Green

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Fooball is not a matter of life and death-It is far more important!!!!
 
puregold star for you. That was the missing piece! It was a combination of a bunch of stuff Here's what I did:

2 routes in IPO

1 so 10.0.0.0 can get to lan 2
IP Address 10.0.0.0
Subnet 255.255.255.0
Gateway 0.0.0.0
Dest LAN2

1 so 192.168.43.0 can get to lan 1

IP Address 192.168.43.0
Subnet 255.255.255.0
Gateway 0.0.0.0
Dest LAN1

Then I needed to use puregold's option above.

Thank you






 
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