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Is There a CD-RW Disk That Is Compatible With CD Audio Players
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As far as I know, no there isn't. The reason is, a CD RW uses a different file allocation system compared to a CD R, and a domestic CD player is not compatible with this. No way round it, I'm afraid, they are different formats - a bit like trying to play an audio cassette on a record player. The fact that the CD's look simmilar means nothing.
Sorry and all that...... My suggestions are what I would try myself. If incorrect, I welcome corrections to my rather limited knowledge. Andy.
Sorry and all that...... My suggestions are what I would try myself. If incorrect, I welcome corrections to my rather limited knowledge. Andy.
It is also a physical problem - the CD-RW consists of layers of tempurature sensitive dyes which most (older) audio CD players cannot read due to the wavelength (color) of the laser used to read the disks. The dyes have a substantally different reflective index than the aluminum silver coating used in premanufactured CD's.
Some newer audio CD players can read CD-RW's - they use different lasers (many older players also cannot read CD-R's, even if they are recorded properly in (Orange Book?) audio format for the same reasons).
Some newer audio CD players can read CD-RW's - they use different lasers (many older players also cannot read CD-R's, even if they are recorded properly in (Orange Book?) audio format for the same reasons).
CDRW's copy data and digital file by reading a file and copying it.
For an audio file on a music CD it is recorded differently. Most CDRW have a program to do both. One way is to image the entire CD and copy it as one big image. Another way is to Rip MP3 songs and copy them onto the new CDRW media. If you do not like my post feel free to point out your opinion or my errors.
For an audio file on a music CD it is recorded differently. Most CDRW have a program to do both. One way is to image the entire CD and copy it as one big image. Another way is to Rip MP3 songs and copy them onto the new CDRW media. If you do not like my post feel free to point out your opinion or my errors.
When you write an audio CD, the format is set automatically, and does not depend on the type of disk.
Audio CDs, whether on CD, CD-R, or CD-RW, are written in a format following the Red Book standard. The reason CD-RW disks cannot be read in many CD players, is not due to the format, but to the reflectivity of the disk and the laser used. Newer players labeled "multidisk", should be able to read any CD, CD-R, and CD-RW. Other players connot read all disks.
Audio CDs, whether on CD, CD-R, or CD-RW, are written in a format following the Red Book standard. The reason CD-RW disks cannot be read in many CD players, is not due to the format, but to the reflectivity of the disk and the laser used. Newer players labeled "multidisk", should be able to read any CD, CD-R, and CD-RW. Other players connot read all disks.
Like I said, it is 2 problems: (1) the logical formating of the disk - as rwise2112 stated it must be in Red Book format with only one session which is closed after the write, (2) the laser must be able to read the disk.
Newer CD players have addressed both issues - their logic is compatible for multi-session disks and (quite a while ago) the lasers used where slightly modified in frequency to read the differently colored CDR and CDRW disks. As I said, very old players will have the laser problem - probably more than, say, 7 years or so old.
The manufacturers had to do a 2 pronged attack of the problem to solve CDR/CDRW compatibility, and they did so well. If you want to use a CDRW for audio make sure it is in Red Book format, single closed session with all the files in the proper .CDA format which is a must because CD players, unlike computers, cannot read other music files formats - they don't have the capability. Most newer players will be able to read that disk, but a few out there still won't be able to, even if the disk is correctly made to play in CD players, due to the laser problem. But that issue might be very, very rare nowadays (it wasn't when CDR's & CDRW's first appeared!).
Your mileage may vary...
Newer CD players have addressed both issues - their logic is compatible for multi-session disks and (quite a while ago) the lasers used where slightly modified in frequency to read the differently colored CDR and CDRW disks. As I said, very old players will have the laser problem - probably more than, say, 7 years or so old.
The manufacturers had to do a 2 pronged attack of the problem to solve CDR/CDRW compatibility, and they did so well. If you want to use a CDRW for audio make sure it is in Red Book format, single closed session with all the files in the proper .CDA format which is a must because CD players, unlike computers, cannot read other music files formats - they don't have the capability. Most newer players will be able to read that disk, but a few out there still won't be able to, even if the disk is correctly made to play in CD players, due to the laser problem. But that issue might be very, very rare nowadays (it wasn't when CDR's & CDRW's first appeared!).
Your mileage may vary...
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This mostly applies to CDR's - CDRW's have a still yet different surface structure which may cause more problems for the readers than CDR's. So with CDRW's many, many more readers will not be able to read then than CDR's due to the difference. Your mileage may vary...
This mostly applies to CDR's - CDRW's have a still yet different surface structure which may cause more problems for the readers than CDR's. So with CDRW's many, many more readers will not be able to read then than CDR's due to the difference. Your mileage may vary...
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How Do I get me writer software to right in Red Book format
I have tried making an Audio CD on A CD-RW on With the following progames:
Nero - Burning Rom V 5.5
Roxio Easy CD Creator 5
WinOnCD 3.8
But My CD Player still couldn't reed the disk.
Can Any one Help my
Thanks
David
I have tried making an Audio CD on A CD-RW on With the following progames:
Nero - Burning Rom V 5.5
Roxio Easy CD Creator 5
WinOnCD 3.8
But My CD Player still couldn't reed the disk.
Can Any one Help my
Thanks
David
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dwilko:
The setting 'Audio CD' is the same as making a Red Book format CD - the software companies have just simplified the nomenclature, figuring that the normal person will not know what a 'Red Book' CD is, so they just say 'Audio CD' instead.
From your list, at the minimun Roxio CD Creator can make audio CD's. Again, the files must be correct encoded in the .CDA (CD Audio) encoding format, the CD type Red Book (Audio CD), the session type single and closed after write. If your player will not read the disk after _all_ of those parameters are met then the CD player cannot handle CDRW's due to the problems mentioned earlier in this thread. You'll have to use CDR's only.
Good luck. Your mileage may vary...
The setting 'Audio CD' is the same as making a Red Book format CD - the software companies have just simplified the nomenclature, figuring that the normal person will not know what a 'Red Book' CD is, so they just say 'Audio CD' instead.
From your list, at the minimun Roxio CD Creator can make audio CD's. Again, the files must be correct encoded in the .CDA (CD Audio) encoding format, the CD type Red Book (Audio CD), the session type single and closed after write. If your player will not read the disk after _all_ of those parameters are met then the CD player cannot handle CDRW's due to the problems mentioned earlier in this thread. You'll have to use CDR's only.
Good luck. Your mileage may vary...
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