Interesting! I'll take a look if you say it's on the IP phones specifically. I did find with an IT guy that he ran a program that identifies Packet Loss. Interestingly, it shows like a tracert and shows each step in the process with a graph and identifies which section of the route is losing packets with a percentage loss. I found that after it got handed off to a particular company stateside on route to overseas, there were packet loss both on the acceptance, internal switch handoffs and again on the final pass off to the next carrier that amounted to 20% packet loss. The one thing that I'd like to know is I've been fighting not only this problem of packet loss which has tended to vary on the BCM monitor showing 1 or 2 % packet lose up to 15%, but I'm more interested in knowing if anyone has had a major packet loss problem as it seems to be causing the BCM to lock up with a series of alarms starting with "Media Path Server has stopped unexpectedly". This causes a whole series of alarms that shut down services requiring either a manual reboot of the system or it does come back up on its own after a varied time interval from 5 minutes to more. Sometimes I'm told it even locks up the digital sets in the office preventing them from taking calls? It's almost like the BCM says "OK, I've had enough of these errors, I'm shutting down and rebooting to see if I can clear these problems". This has been ongoing with first a BCM50, then 2 different BCM450s. Anyone gone down the same road as unusual as it seems.