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Not bad, as trolls go. Some of his points are well made, others are more questionable. One of his main arguments appears to be that tables are easier to deal with in Dreamweaver - surely a fault of Dreamweaver rather than CSS?
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I use CSS for text and formatting issues, but I still findit is easier to lay out the basic site using <TABLE> tags, and use CSS to format the tables. Of course I have over 10 years of HTML coding drilled into my head, dating back to when Netscape 2 was the browser of choice, to overcome.
When in doubt, deny all terms and defnitions.
When in doubt, deny all terms and defnitions.
RedRobotHero
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I find CSS easier than tables 99% of the time. The remaining 1% is when there's an inconsistency between browsers, which I've almost never seen happen with tables. But I'm a relative newcomer, and haven't really practiced table layout that much.
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I can't say I like tables or css better, but the guy that wrote this article bothered me. He doesn't offer any facts to back up his arguments and tries to invalidate facts that support css layouts. I just thought I'd post another interesting article I found:
Kevin
A+, Network+, MCP
Kevin
A+, Network+, MCP
My opinion is simple; if it works in a web-browser, then it is "compliant". Tables are fine; css is fine; even <font> tags are fine. Nothing is outdated if it still works.
A while ago I was given a page to try & fix, and the layout was done entirely with CSS & <div> tags; it was a page that would expand to fit the whole screen, with a fixed-width column on the left; a fixed-width column on the right; and the middle expanded to the remaining area. Would not work worth a darn in CSS, but the tables did (and quite easily might I add).
I'd rather use tables personally just because they make more sense to me to build. Other people may think differently, that's their own preference.
And if we were THAT worried about space-saving, every web page would have every blank space, every line feed, every tab removed from the .html document... ain't gonna happen. We build the technology to make our lives easier; so we can spend more time designing and less time optimizing.
A while ago I was given a page to try & fix, and the layout was done entirely with CSS & <div> tags; it was a page that would expand to fit the whole screen, with a fixed-width column on the left; a fixed-width column on the right; and the middle expanded to the remaining area. Would not work worth a darn in CSS, but the tables did (and quite easily might I add).
I'd rather use tables personally just because they make more sense to me to build. Other people may think differently, that's their own preference.
And if we were THAT worried about space-saving, every web page would have every blank space, every line feed, every tab removed from the .html document... ain't gonna happen. We build the technology to make our lives easier; so we can spend more time designing and less time optimizing.
Just to keep a nice balanced argument, here is a thread from a while back, including a link I found with a pro-CSS article + tutorial.
As for which I use, I use both depending on the needs but I still use tables a lot due to more guaranteed compatibilty and because I'm more used to them.
As for which I use, I use both depending on the needs but I still use tables a lot due to more guaranteed compatibilty and because I'm more used to them.
The links in this thread are very interesting. Up to now, I've only used style sheets for basic stuff, but having read some of the articles, I decided to try redesigning my own site without using tables as much.
First impressions are mostly positive. There have been a few unpredictable things happening, but nothing insurmountable, and it's so easy to try out new things, even drastic changes. I swapped the left and right columns throughout all the pages in about 20 seconds!
Anyway, when it's done, I'll post a link, and see if it works or not.
First impressions are mostly positive. There have been a few unpredictable things happening, but nothing insurmountable, and it's so easy to try out new things, even drastic changes. I swapped the left and right columns throughout all the pages in about 20 seconds!
Anyway, when it's done, I'll post a link, and see if it works or not.
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