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Extension won't stay up - interference?

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PilotMike

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Jul 14, 2003
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Hello all. I've got a head-scratcher of a problem I'd appreciate some input on.

I have a 3x8 and 4 extensions. I've recently relocated the 3x8 and had to rerun cat5 through the roof between the demarc and the 3x8, front of bldg to back...about 130 feet. I use two pairs for the incoming lines and have an extension on pair three that goes back to a front extension. This extension frequently drops off during the day. It either begins ringing nonstop, or 3 dots appear on the display. No dialtone is present when it goes offline. If unplugged for a minute or so then reconnected, the display returns to normal and the phone works. However, it usually goes offline again later. This only happens during the day! Before the move, this phone was set up next to the 3x8, on the same extension, and it worked flawlessly for a year, so I doubt it's the phone or the extension on the BIX block.

Now, what I have noticed that may be a clue is the presence of radio broadcast on the tail end of voicemails, after the caller hangs up. It's about 1-2 seconds worth before the system clears the line. I figure we must be fairly close to a broadcast station. When the extension was close, it wasn't apparent. Now that I've increased the distance and have the cat5 up above ground, could the radio interference be causing connectivity problems? The wire could act like an antenna.

The other three phones are on much shorter lengths of wire that do not cross over the roof. They appear to be immune so far. If I hadn't heard the radio broadcast in the phone I wouldn't consider it a possibility.

If it's not, what troubleshooting steps would you take next? If it could be radio signal interference, what kind of filtering could be employed?

Thanks to all for the great support of this forum.
 
Antenna !!
try upgrading to Cat 6 - that has a better interference rejection ratio
otherwise shielded cable
use grounded termination blocks
 
I wonder if a vanilla RFI choke would reduce the effects of the interference.
 
also if its interference try a older vintage set

7 months until ski season starts...sadly i must resign myself to the warmer weather"this will include a normal 8-5 work day, 5 days a week"
 
RF choke is the easiest start. You can also take a spare pair and ground one side of the cable (not both) and you may, if you are fortunate, create a bit of a shield.

Also, look oon that roof for other antennas, they could be straight up sticks or paddles. If you see any of those you could have paging or cellular interference...but your radio station clue is a good one.
 
Ant noise on the out side cable,could have a bad or open sheaith,thats a good one....
 
Well, I've installed some snap-on RF chokes on both ends of the cable between the extension and the KSU. We'll see how that goes. Thanks for all the input.
 
You could try to install a DSL filter near your phone system, that could block the high frequency signals on the line. It is easy to get and cheap, also pretty easy to install, many of them just plug in.
 
That's a good idea. The snap-on filters didn't work at all. Probably because the 4PR wire is not shielded, and those chokes bleed the RF off the outside of shielding.

Wasn't sure if in-line filters could be used with the Norstar system. I'll give that a try. Thanks!
 
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