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Experiencing different audio mixes after render

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EdwardMartinIII

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Sep 17, 2002
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My project has 16 tracks of audio. This includes voices (some overlapping), sound effects (many, many overlapping), and music (some overlapping). I listen on headphones as I mix the levels, but when it's all rendered to MPEG and I burn a DVD, the levels seem much different than I experienced while editing!

Tracks that were audible while editing are almost entirely gone in the DVD. Tracks that were quiet while editing are obnoxiously high in the DVD. Etc.

This doesn't seem related to the pitch of the sounds, either. It affects entire clips and I cannot easily determine the pattern (I don't think it's random, but I don't see the reason).

Has anyone else experienced this and if so, did you learn anything about why it happens? My current work-around is to play the DVD in a separate player and adjust the levels in the Premiere project based on what I hear coming from the DVD, instead of the audio tracks in the project.

Is there some kind of "rendering" the audio I must do?

Cheers,


[monkey] Edward [monkey]

"Cut a hole in the door. Hang a flap. Criminy, why didn't I think of this earlier?!" -- inventor of the cat door
 
Okay...

We remastered the audio for the whole movie, using a pair of headphones on a "Y" adapter. After we were done, we exported an MPEG, burned a DVD, and watched it. For pretty much the whole thing, the audio levels were right back on track.

Weird.

We did lose some of the subtle sounds, but we think the difference here has to do with the difference between listening on good headphones versus listening in a big room filled with furniture and the sounds of life.

Strange, yet magically healed.

Cheers,


[monkey] Edward [monkey]

"Cut a hole in the door. Hang a flap. Criminy, why didn't I think of this earlier?!" -- inventor of the cat door
 
Nah, it hasn't healed after all. Same problem as in the basenote.

I'm using Premiere 6.5 on a Win2kpro box.

Does this or has this happen to anyone else?

Curious,


[monkey] Edward [monkey]

"Cut a hole in the door. Hang a flap. Criminy, why didn't I think of this earlier?!" -- inventor of the cat door
 
Edward,
Just a thought, but why not mix down your audio tracks in something like Cakewalk Home Studio or any other multi-track audio recording package. Then just strip in the single stereo track and be done with it. Then you have all the control in the world over the final sound, including compression, reverb, eq etc. etc.
My $.02 worth.
Dan
Premier 6.0
DV500Plus
 
edward,

i am experiencing the same problem, with only 2 tracks. a voice over and music. have you had any luck sorting it out

for me even muting an an audio track has no effect on the exported version as both the tracks still play at full volume it seems.

please let me know if you have any tips

regards
james (jamesbwilks@hotmail.com)
 
Dan, I pretty much have all that control in Premiere, too. It takes about a day to remix the audio for the movie, and a small portion of that is exporting the revisd audio stream and building the new DVD.

The latest advice someone offered me was to not mix using headphones. So, I'm going to try that.

James, I still haven't figured it out, but I have to remix the thing again and I'll let you know how much -- if any -- influence is a result of the contrast between headphones and speakers.

Cheers,


[monkey] Edward [monkey]

"Cut a hole in the door. Hang a flap. Criminy, why didn't I think of this earlier?!" -- inventor of the cat door
 
Please help if you can! I have been on this for days now. I have a Roland xv-88 -- midi in & out to Midiman 2x2 (A), Audio in/out thru Behringer mixer, then:::::: in-out B on Midiman 2x2 TO M-AUDIO AUDIOPHILE SOUND CARD....So far, so good, but, when I use Cakewalk, even though I downloaded all the XV-88 instrument files, and set up the tracks as Midi 1, 2 etc. only can play back 1 midi track at a time and it has to be set to the Roland Channel setting at the time (1,2,.etc...) -- i.e. if the Roland is on Channel 1, then I hear channel 1, etc. Cannot playback a channel 2 track at all -- I used to be able to do this effortlessly when I had my rotten Sound Blaster Audigy card, but, now that I upgraded to pro stuff -- doesn't work --
 
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