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[ddzc]

Hey guys,

Does anyone know why Microsoft recommends that we updates the workstations before the servers? what will happen if it's done in reverse?

For IT administrators running Microsoft Exchange Server
1. Apply updates to Windows operating systems on Windows Servers. Windows Server KB article 931836
2. Apply updates to Windows operating systems on individual workstations. Windows operating systems KB article 931836
3. Apply the Exchange Server DST update. Exchange Server 2003 KB article 926666

 

[hunterdw]

Great question. A better question... why did all of us wait so freaking long? Or a better question than that... why are the updates changing from Microsoft... KB928388 expired last night (patch tuesday) to be replaced by KB931836

"I wish I would have done this 30 days ago..."

Sincerely,

Despair

 

[ddzc]

I can't find any information on this.

Here is the referenced article:

http://support.microsoft.com/gp/dst_topissues#a2

 

[hunterdw]

Right. That article changed last night.

The current article references "Windows Server KB article 931836"

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931836

Prior to last night it referenced "Windows Server KB article 928388"

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928388

Are you just now getting "into the game" for DST 2007? If so, I can perhaps save a ton of research and send you parts of my "game plan" if you want.

--DW

 

[ddzc]

yes, i'm some what starting to get in to it.

You can send me your plan if you like - spyrotek@gmail.com or post it.

My main concern is about the order.

At my organization, many workstations have been updated already. The servers haven't.

The document I posted states that the server updates MUST be installed before the workstation updates.

My concern is if I shoud uninstall the workstation updates and apply the server updates.

Basically I want to know why it must be done in this order and what will happen if the workstations are done before the servers.

 

[hunterdw]

uninstalling the update isn't supported

if you have ht eupdate installed... and someone has made an appointment during the "extended DST period" and THEN you uninstall the update, you've hosed their calendar.

I'm unsure exactly why the order is important. I believe if I read the doc right, it's just the "recommended" order, not the "required" order.

I'll post something useful soon. I'm in the middle of this too and am doing my big exchange update tonight.

 

[ddzc]

I see. I'm not too concerned about uninstalling. I just want to know if the rest of the workstation can be completed before the server updates.

If you find anything let me know, thanks.

 

[crobin1]

KB931836 supersedes KB928388 because Microsoft made 2 or 3 more timezone updates, and so released a new patch for it. If you aren't affected by those particular timezones, you can still use KB928388. You can even install 931836 on top of 928388 if you want.

The workstation updates and server updates are independent of each other; they can be applied at different times. Exchange Server update 926666 has to be applied after the Windows Server update however.

The problem is dealing with Outlook Calendar entries. MS released the server and workstation updates in November and suggested starting rolling them out then. It wasn't until mid-to-late January they released the tools for updating Calendar entries. Then they changed the articles to say apply the updates in order and as close together time-wise as possible. Of course, at work we started pushing out the workstation updates in December to give ourselves plenty of time...

The issue that can occur is depending on the order of updates and appointment creation, Calendar entries can still be an hour off. Running the Exchange or Outlook calendar update tool might fix some entries but could mess up other entries. Unfortunately for us, we're going to have to get users to manually change appointments to be sure everything's at the right time.

 

[ddzc]

Thanks a lot for the reply.

I have a quick question about the outlook updates.

Basically, Microsoft gives up the option to run the exchange calndar update tool and the client outlook update tool.

I believe from an adminstrative standpoint, the exchange update would be the route to go.

Does anyone know how long the update would take in an environment of about 250 users/mailboxes?

Thanks

 

[hunterdw]

Just shared my experience on the Windows 2003 Forum.

http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1335044&page=1

--DW