Not silly, just basic. And who said letting the wizards do some work is bad? In fact, using Excel as an example, one way to learn coding is to create a macro then look at the code generated to see the syntax, logic, etc. Same is true when you create command buttons - the command button wizard produces some code, then you can see how it's done or modify it. Queries - it's easier to use the QBE pane than directly coding the SQL in most cases. Need a basic form, use the form wizard. Etc. My opinion.