CFO

[waynesworld]

I have Quark 4.11 Mac. I'm surprised that apparently, when using Collect For Output, the fonts are not collected along with everything else. Am I therefore limited to either manually putting the fonts into the CFO folder or purchasing an XTension such as the Bundler?

waynesworld

 

[Zelandakh]

When you collect for output you are sending info to an output bureau. You shouldn't send them fonts as you don't own them for distribution.

Therefore the bureau must purchase the fonts.

This is a licensing issue and is by design. There are products that will collect fonts for you, but you are breaking licence agreements doing it...

 

[waynesworld]

Zelandakh,

Thanks for setting me straight on that...so it's important to check beforehand to make sure whoever prints the job has the fonts.

waynesworld

 

[Zelandakh]

Tell me about it - fonts are the bane of my life!

 

[GeorgeMack]

I beg to differ -- you ARE allowed to ship fonts for output!

If you read the licenses of the font vendors, generally they DO allow you to send the fonts for output. Adobe and Bitstream at least, and others tacitly allow it.

Back in the 80's they found that the practicalities of the situation were that 1) there were so many fonts that noone had everything and 2) if they insisted on service bureaus and printers owning all the fonts, they sold fewer fonts, since design shops would choose from ones they knew the output shops had. And a lot of designers said "the heck with them" and sent the fonts anyway. It was also unenforceable, so they made a more liveable license agreement.

On the font collection issue, the current Suitcase ships with an Xtension that will collect the fonts for you, as does Font Reserve, and there are other $ extensions available. It's a handy function that is worth a little cash if you need to spend it, and makes it harder to overlook fonts or get the wrong version. (I have one client where, for legacy reasons, there are three non-identical versions of some fonts and I have to keep them straight.) Some enterprising folk have also written AppleScripts to do the same job.

 

[waynesworld]

George,

Thank you for your input. Although I have rare occasion to use printers and therefore CFO, I'll feel a little less guilty sending fonts while keeping in mind Zelandakh's comments.

waynesworld

 

[PixelMasher]

I work for a printer and all out clients send their fonts, and if they don't their jobs get put on hold. If they want us to use our fonts they understand they they are taking a chance of their type re ragging and and possibly charging them extra to match their lasers the way the type should look in their files.

Prepress Solutions
PrepressSolution@aol.com

 

[jimoblak]

Acrobat PDF was designed for this situation. If you can find a competent printer, you can supply PDF files with everything embedded. A 1 Gb publication (doc, links & fonts) that I created with QuarkKiller was smacked down to a press-ready 150 Mb PDF.