cannot rdp to some XP stations

[bshbsh]

I have a Vista Home Premium. I RDP to other XP machines. I have allowed remote desktop, selected users, opened firewall ports. Basically the same settings on all the XP machines I want to RDP. I am able to RDP to one machine, but I am not able to RDP to other machine. Both are XP pro. The only diff between the two is that one is part of the domain (works) and the other is not (doesnt work). I am really frustrated, this is supposed to be so simple and I done it countless times before.
Please advice. What do I do.
Thanks.

 

[dilettante]

Technically I believe you should refer to them as hosts, since you are remoting a Windows station to your client system. In other words the term "station" means something else. But ignoring that unhelpful comment...

Can you RDP to them using their IP addresses? One of the continuing headaches I've had with Vista involves the failure of NetBIOS name resolution within a mixed Vista/XP network.

Are they firewalling the RDP traffic? Is the RDP service (Terminal Services) running on them? Can you get to these XP machines from other XP machines using RDP?

 

[linney]

Can you Ping the failed XP machine, and otherwise access it fully?

See if any of these give you a few clues, and talking of clues what is showing in the Event Viewer, specifically the Security log as to logon problems?

Remote Desktop Issue
thread779-1191622

Remote Desktop - enable with GPO
thread779-979719

Problem connecting with Remote Desktop
thread779-1320377

 

[bshbsh]

Thanks for the helpful info. Will check and post back.
But yes, I always use IP.

 

[lhuegele]

For the host that's not part of the domain, what user credentials are you providing? We find that using the local administrator credentials is helpful, especially if you're trying to track down a problem like this:

Username:
<hostname or IP>\username or
username@<hostname or IP>

Good luck,

 

[CarlGuy]

I'm interested in this thread. I just set up a Vista Home Premium computer at home. I also have an XP Pro machine. I would like to be able to use RDP on the Vista machine to access the XP Pro machine. Both machines are in the same workgroup; there is no domain controller running. I have taken down both firewalls. I can get as far as being prompted for username and password but then get told it can't connect. I have even set RDP to connect if authentication fails, but it doesn't. Checked the event log on both computers--neither has any entry regarding any attempt to use RDP. I can use RealVNC to connect with no difficulty.

Carl Carpenter
IT Manager
Hill Country Community MHMR Center

http://www.hillcountry.org

 

[linney]

One complicated way of checking out whether the problem is third party software, or Vista related, would be to temporarily install another Vista (no need to activate it as it is only for testing purposes) as a Dual Boot. You could then see if a clean install has the same problem as your main install.

Another long shot is covered in this thread.

Got Network issues and nForce Chipset...
thread1583-1437402

This talks about Vista's default NTLMv2 authentication method.

vista - terrastation
thread1583-1362143

 

[CarlGuy]

Another install is not possible. I will check to see if I have the nForce Chipset and will also look into the registry hack. Thanks.

Carl Carpenter
IT Manager
Hill Country Community MHMR Center

http://www.hillcountry.org

 

[PRPhx]

A couple of things.
1) Do you have user names that are identical on both the Vista pc and the one(s) that you can not connect too?

2) Have you tried releasing and renewing uour ip address (if you assign them thru DHCP)?

3) Try shutting down all pc, and your router. Let the router reboot, then your pc's.

 

[macleod1021]

Check out your NLA status on the computers also. If your older machines don't support NLA then it won't let you connect unless you set it up to not care. There's a brief write up about it here:

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/ea4680d1-6962-463b-b29b-351efa676f9e1033.mspx

 

[Alshrim]

I installed RDP 5.2 - and I use that to connect to XP machines..

AlRo
System Administrator
Ottawa, Canada.

 

[strongm]

Make sure the account you are using to log on to the XP box has a password on that XP box. RDP won't connect if it doesn't have one.

 

[Alshrim]

I would tend to disagree...
If you have a domain account that is a member of the administrator (local) group, then you can use an account with the domain prefix to login:

domain\userID

If you have a local account - you can log in with an account no prefix (it will add the machine-name prefix automatically).



AlRo
System Administrator
Ottawa, Canada.