Can not make out going calls on Analog lines

[FireFighter78]

The saga continues. Friday we hung a "new" Option 11 Success 3 and went very well, so we thought.

We cannot make out bound calls on any analog line that does not have an appearance on a digital set. The TNs that work are not MARPed. Also all of the working analogs might be in a RNPG group. Perhaps the contrapositive most (all tested) non working analogs are not part of a RNPG group is more accurate.

What might I have missed when building the system?

Thanks again guys; YOU ROCK!!!

Out bound not working
DES ALARM
TN 001 0 00 00
TYPE 500
CDEN 4D
CUST 0
WRLS NO
DN 8133 0 MARP
CPND
NAME Fire Alarm - Secondary
XPLN 22
DISPLAY_FMT FIRST,LAST
AST NO
IAPG 0
HUNT
TGAR 1
LDN NO
NCOS 0
SGRP 0
RNPG 0
XLST
SCI 0
CLS UNR DTN FBD XFD WTA THFD FND HTD ONS
HPR XRD AGRD CWD SWD MWA RMMD SMWD LPD XHD SLKD CCSD LND TVD
CFTD SFD MRD C6D CNIA CLBD AUTU
ICDA CDMD LLCN EHTD MCTD
GPUA DPUD CFXD ARHD OVDD AGTD CLTD LDTD ASCD
MBXD CPFA CPTA DDGA NAMA MIND
MCRD
EXR0 SHL ABDD CFHD
CWND USMD USRD BNRD OCBD RTDD RBDD RBHD FAXA CNUD CNAD PGND FTTC
RCO 0
PLEV 02
AACS NO
MLWU_LANG 0
DATE 12 JUN 2009



Out bound working
DES SA224
TN 001 0 00 08
TYPE 500
CDEN 4D
CUST 0
WRLS NO
DN 8325 0
CPND
NAME B Carrington
XPLN 13
DISPLAY_FMT FIRST,LAST
AST NO
IAPG 0
HUNT
TGAR 1
LDN NO
NCOS 0
SGRP 0
RNPG 3
XLST
SCI 0
CLS UNR DTN FBD XFD WTA THFD FND HTD ONS
LPR XRD AGRD CWD SWD PUA MWA RMMD SMWD LPD XHD SLKD CCSD LND TVD
CFTD SFD MRD C6D CNIA CLBD AUTU
ICDA CDMD LLCN EHTD MCTD
GPUA DPUD CFXD ARHD OVDD AGTD CLTD LDTD ASCD
MBXD CPFA CPTA DDGA NAMA MIND
MCRD
EXR0 SHL ABDD CFHD
CWND USMD USRD BNRD OCBD RTDD RBDD RBHD FAXD CNUD CNAD PGND FTTC
RCO 0
PLEV 02
AACS NO
MLWU_LANG 0
DATE 8 JUN 2009

 

[GHTROUT]

If you change a non-working to any RNPG, does it them begin to work? How about if you change it back to zero - then does it stay working? I'm wondering if just toggling the RNPG value may eliminate that corruption.

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[SpelingChampeon]

Are you able to dial internally from these analog sets/ports to other analog sets?

Are you getting reorder or dead air?

There are a lot of reasons you may be experiencing this issue. The more info you can provide, the easier it will be to help troubleshoot.

 

[FireFighter78]

I described the problem inaccurately. Here is a TN that is working (making out bound calls) and does not have an appearance on a digital phone. It does not have RNPG set.

Sorry for the bogus description.

My revised description of the problem some of my analog TNs cannot make out bound calls. I have not found a simliarity between the ones that can and those that cannot.


DES SA
TN 017 0 00 00
TYPE 500
CDEN 4D
CUST 0
WRLS NO
DN 8170 0 MARP
CPND
NAME 2nd East
XPLN 13
DISPLAY_FMT FIRST,LAST
AST NO
IAPG 0
HUNT
TGAR 1
LDN NO
NCOS 0
SGRP 0
RNPG 0
XLST
SCI 0
CLS CTD DTN FBD XFD WTA THFD FND HTD ONS
LPR XRD AGRD CWD SWD MWA RMMD SMWD LPD XHD SLKD CCSD LND TVD
CFTD SFD MRD C6D CNIA CLBD AUTU
ICDA CDMD LLCN EHTD MCTD
GPUA DPUD CFXD ARHD OVDD AGTD CLTD LDTD ASCD
MBXD CPFA CPTA DDGA NAMA MIND
MCRD
EXR0 SHL ABDD CFHD
CWND USMD USRD BNRD OCBD RTDD RBDD RBHD FAXD CNUD CNAD PGND FTTC
RCO 0
PLEV 02
AACS NO
MLWU_LANG 0
DATE 8 JUN 2009

 

[GHTROUT]

Can we assume the NCOS=0 is OK with your dialing method?

Back to the RNPG - I know that sounds totally dumb, but I've seen far stranger things caused by far more obscure non-related settings in software.

Another thing worth trying is to MOV the TN to another TN, and then back again. That rewrites a few things, and may result in a working TN and no wiring change required.

The MOV method is a lot easier than OUTing and rebuilding


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[FireFighter78]

Yes we can make internal calls on the affect TNs. We get the reorder tone when we dial 9. We do not have NARS or BARS set; 9 is the ACOD on the only RDB built.

SpelingChampeon (hey that should be my name) - some times I am not sure what information is helpful I try to give you what I know and I try not to overlook the obvious (like what happens when we dial 9).

 

[GHTROUT]

If you don't use BARS, you do not really want CLS CTD. CTD and CUN are really for BARS dialing plans.

Without BARS, CTD=TLD
Without BARS, CUN=UNR

So, you want either UNR or TLD if you don't plan on using BARS. CTD/TLD will stop you from dialing 1's or 0's on COT routes.

Try setting to UNR?

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[FireFighter78]

Probably not it. I have UNRs that both work and don't work. I also have CTD that will dial out.

 

[trvlr1]

Can you post a working digital set as a reference please?

 

[FireFighter78]

Here is a working digital -

DES SA224
TN 003 0 00 03
TYPE 2317
CDEN 8D
CUST 0
KLS 3
FDN 8199
TGAR 1
LDN NO
NCOS 0
SGRP 0
RNPG 3
SCI 0
SSU
XLST
CLS UNR FBA WTA LPR PUA MTD FNA HTA ADD HFA
MWA RMMD SMWD AAD IMD XHD IRD NID OLD VCE DRG1
POD DSX VMD CMSD SLKD CCSD SWD LND CNDA
CFTD SFD MRD DDV CNIA MSID DAPA BFED RCBD
ICDA CDMD LLCN MCTD ENG CLBD AUTU
GPUA DPUD DNDD CFXA ARHA CLTD ASCD
CPFA CPTA ABDD CFHD FICD NAID BUZZ AGRD MOAD AHD
DDGA NAMA
EXR0
USMD USRD ULAD RTDD RBDD RBHD PGND OCBD FLXD FTTC MCBN

RCO 0
BFTN 003 0 00 00
012 0 00 00
HUNT 8199
LHK 1
PLEV 02
AST
IAPG 0
AACS NO
ITNA NO
DGRP
MLWU_LANG 0
DNDR 0
KEY 00 SCR 8325 0 MARP
CPND
NAME B Carrington
XPLN 13
DISPLAY_FMT FIRST,LAST
01 SCR 7325 0 MARP
CPND
NAME B Carrington
XPLN 13
DISPLAY_FMT FIRST,LAST
02 DIG 3 5 V
03 SCR 8320 0
CPND
NAME I. T. General
XPLN 13
DISPLAY_FMT FIRST,LAST
04 BFS 012 0 00 13
05
06 GPU
07 CA 16 8199
08 CA 16 8200
09 CA 16 8317
10 CA 16 94616588
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20 MWK 8199
21
22 CFW 4
23 AO6
24 CPN
25 CHG
26 TRN
27 RGA
28 PRS
29 LNG
DATE 8 JUN 2009

 

[telebub]

One thing I see in the 2 posts of working analog TNs is CLS FAXD. In the post of a non-working analog TN, you have CLS FAXA. I'm not sure this is the problem but it might be worth looking into. Try changing TN 1-0 to CLS FAXD.

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[FireFighter78]

Thanks guys, so far making that change is working.

As an offering of penance I give you this (old) joke -

Definition of an upgrade: old bugs out, new ones in.

 

[GHTROUT]

If you build a generic analog TN from scratch, do they work? Is it only the "existing" TNs that don't work?

I'm leaning towards corruption. I take it you have power cycled the thing already (make sure to do a backup first)

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[SpelingChampeon]

Keycodes!

I once had a situation like this, and thought it was corruption. What had actually taken place was, the system I was working with had 500 sets with CLASS programming. After an upgrade, it was found that Nortel did not include any licenses for CLASS sets. We had to have Nortel send us another keycode with the CLASS TN upgrade, install the keycode and reload the system after hours.