ASP or ASP.NET?

[alexs0628]

My manager wants me to learn ASP to create an application for a database to use on an SQL server. Should I learn ASP or ASP.NET? He wants me to learn ASP, but when I go to the bookstore, I find mainly ASP.NET books. Is my boss behind the times? Is ASP good for some apps and ASP.NET is good for others?

 

[palbano]

>> Is my boss behind the times?

Yes... Maybe

>> Is ASP good for some apps and ASP.NET is good for others?

ASP is fine for simple server side applications. ASP.NET is better suited for more complex server side requirements. It gets you out of the Windows Scripting Engine that ASP operates in and gives you a more powerful and complete environment to operate in. There are many more classes/controls natively available on the server side than are in the Script Engine with ASP.


-pete

 

[alexs0628]

Which is easier to learn, ASP or ASP.NET? I'm suppose to take an Access database that I created and turn it into an ASP application so it has a web type interface. He says it should be easy for me to do, but I don't know any programming at all. (I'm the network administrator.)

 

[onpnt]

Which is easier to learn, ASP or ASP.NET

either or! The two platforms are different in many areas. One has a multitude of languages to choose from. ASP.NET (C#, VB.NET and on, and on...) ASP also has many (vbscript, jscript, pythonscript, perlkscript...)

If you ever did any VB work then VB.NET utilization in ASP.NET may be easier to pick up. If you do some scripting then ASP will be easier. You need to take a look at some tutorials and deffinitions online to figure out which you need to choose. The question is just unanswerable in my eyes on which is easier or which should I use. note: ASP (classic) will be more forgiving in development resources. take notepad and IIS and you can run it. ASP.NET needs a bit more although I believe you can use notepad for basic .NET development.

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[palbano]

>> [red]He says it should be easy for me to do[/red], but I don't know
>> any programming at all. (I'm the network administrator.)

He is a goner. Put him in a burlap sack and give it a toss into a deep deep DEEP river and put him out of his misery before his brain tumor explodes and covers everyone in the room with blood, hair and brain matter.

"But, that's just my opinion... I could be wrong."

-pete

 

[onpnt]

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[palbano]

i kinda figured you like that one onpnt

-pete

 

[alexs0628]

My manager wants me to learn ASP and have the application done by the end of December. So I'm suppose to master a programming language in less then three months. With not one stitch of programming experience, I'm suppose to become a programmer overnight. Maybe I should toss him in the nearest river.

In realistic terms, how long do you think it would take the average person to learn ASP? Do I need to learn VB first? Or HTML? I bought an ASP.NET book, but I've never dealt with any kind of script language before, so it's not that understandable to me.

 

[onpnt]

master a programming language

ASP is not a language so you don't ahve to worry about that

start with some basic tutorials out there on vbscript/ASP
I have a few set up for the very basics of te basics

http://www.onpntwebdesigns.com/aspTut.asp

I think you can easiely learn to write Active Server Pages by Dec. Just start from the bottom and find out what you need to do.

start with this process
determine what is needed
1) flowchart everything
2) describe the resources that are needed
3) take that and research the needed technologies
eg: HTML, Server scripting, client scripting

you'll more then likely need to research and learn the basics and fundementals for
Basic HTML
Basic ASP/Database integration
Research ADO and classic ASP processing
Basic to novice VBScript
Basic validation tasks with Javascript or client vbscript

This may seem intimidating but trucst me, this platform is not that tough to learn and get to be simplified




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[palbano]

All joking aside your company should fire your boss, he's not worth the money they are paying him. Then use his salary to contract a professional developer for the project.

-pete

 

[onpnt]

Personal benefits in knowledge you could do my steps above to learn what you need and finish the project given.

However: I tend to agree with palbano. This manager that has thrown this in your lap is not worth the desk they provide for him/her. Reality states he/she's not going anywhere and more then likely rebellion will cause your job to be shaky. Just take careful consideration on taking something back to management on the fact the request is absurd. We (most) know how far that has taken IT pro's in the past.

Although if you bring significant learning curves and resource costs back to him/her they may agree outsourcing is the best choice to have the project completed on time and have a stable application for the company to use.


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[alexs0628]

Thanks for all the advice. I'll take a stab at learning the stuff, see what happens, and let the chips fall where they may.