98SE will not reinstall on itself

[boydproctor]

Seems when I have a problem it is one that no one has ever had before and there is no solution, I think this is one of those problems. Tried to install a program (PowerProducer 2 Gold) and got the message that "this software is intended for windows 98SE, ME, 2000 or above versions only". I am running 98SE. So thought if I reinstalled 98se over itself it might solve the problem. Long story short, when the reinstall gets past hardware detection and setting up hardware it stops and gives message "Explorer: This program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down". In details it says "Explorer caused an invalid page fault in module explorer.exe at 067:00401f31" then lists several registers. I managed to uninstall ie 6, and tried again, but still does the same thing with the message "invalid vxd dynamic link call from win32 (01)+ 00000714 to device "0009", service 1". It then locks up and have to reboot manually, then the registry checker installs a backup registry and I am back where I started. Everything works fine with my present installation, except that one program will not install. So am thinking about biting the bullet and going to XP, however it would take me forever to replace all my programs. Also tried installing XP over 98 and that doesn't work either. Similiar problem. Sorry this is a bit long but just wondered if anyone else had ever seen this problem.

 

[micker377]

Since this actually started with (or before) the install of PowerProducer 2 Gold, I would back up any important data, and reformat/re-install a clean version of Windows. This may be a good time to switch to XP. Seems like a lot of work for an OS (98) that is on the way out. If you could get a new hard drive (you always need a larger drive <grin>), You could install XP, and use the "Transfer Wizard" (comes with XP)to copy all your old programs and data to the new hard drive/XP installation. Make sure when you buy the XP, it comes with SP2.

 

[edfair]

Suspect that you have picked up a memory problem. That generally has been the source of my SE reload failures. But I have also had some intermittent problems that were only resolved by multiple reinstalls. Think my worse case was 4 times to force everything right. The OS is pretty good at self-healing but there are times it fails.


Ed Fair
Give the wrong symptoms, get the wrong solutions.

 

[TekTippy4U]

you probably have bits and pieces of the XP failed upgrade all over the sys - so a Clean Install may be the only thing. If you're going to try and upgrade, I'd run the Upgrade Advisor from MS first to see if the sys specs are up to snuff. The SE will say 4.10.2222 I'm pretty sure (as opposed to 4.10.1998 for FE) when viewing the system files. Start > Run DXDIAG will help with sys info (also start > Run MSinfo32 ), as well as System Properties in Control Panel (right click My Computer >> Properties.).

I know 'you' know you have SE installed, and I have no idea how PP determines whether or not (I could guess - and you could perhaps alter some REG dates) - but since you've gotten this far with a lot of gobbledegook, a Clean Install is perhaps the best bet

TT4U

Notification:
These are just my thoughts....and should be carefully measured against other opinions.
Backup All Important Data/Docs

 

[ZBilau]

I think it´s a Windows Complication .

hey guy, that´s why I solve my windows problems:
1. boot pressing F8 and select Command Prompt, or boot from floppy (W98 boot disk)
2. in c:\ (your hard drive), type "REN WINDOWS WINOLD", and "REN PROGRA~1 PROGOLD"
3. enter WIN98 dir (if you have on HD, case not, copy before all from win98 cd)
4. type INSTALL and reinstall your windows

your files and drivers stay on your hard disk, get important things from renamed folders and delete it after.

 

[hotfusion]

Just maybe.....
Boydprocter, I encountered this problem once after tweaking some of the BIOS settings. Initially things were OK, but I then changed the HDD for a faster 7200 model and started getting the kind of errors you describe, along with random programs failing to open. A reload failed, as did a clean install.

Solution was to reset BIOS defaults, which loaded some less aggressive settings and all was OK and worked with the new HDD, allowing a sucessful re-install to take place.

Does this story bear any resemblance to your case?

Failing that I would go along with the dodgy memory suggested by edfair. Search Google for memtest86, read how to use it and run it.

Regards, Andy.
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[boydproctor]

I really appreciate all the interest and offers of assistance. Tried all the suggestions and think I am still looking at a clean install of XP pro.

Hotfusion: Thought your suggestion was going to work because I am running my bios in turbo mode, so went to the default setting and same thing happened. Nice try though.

LBilau: Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't your suggestion the same as what they call a parallel installaton of windows, where you leave your old windows and install the new in a different directory?

Thanks again, all!

 

[ZBilau]

bodyproctor, yes it is!! Some times at my home I need to do this... one or two hour of work, to reinstall programs, drivers, etc. But when an error persists without a solution, I prefer do this.

XP is a good idea if you have and your computer supports.

good luck.