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G3si and ANI (caller ID)

G3si and ANI (caller ID)

G3si and ANI (caller ID)

(OP)
We have a new Definity G3si and we are trying to get both alpha/numeric caller ID. Our service provider says that they can't do it because they have NorTel equipment and we have Lucent (whatever). I have contacted even CLEC's that are using the Lucent ES5500 and they say that they can only send numeric. So here is my question, is their anybody getting both alpha and numeric ANI using NI 2 protocol on the G3si? Please help my CEO is on my back!!

RE: G3si and ANI (caller ID)

Guy,

I am facing the same problem.
Do you know whether the Lucent PBX has a owner caller ID ?

Thanks,

Juliano Forti

RE: G3si and ANI (caller ID)

I assume you mean ANI?  You would have to have ISDN PRI to get this information.  I have several questions. If you have ISDN.  Do the phones have displays.  If they do, you will get ANI if it is sent.  As of R8.4 the ISDN PRI meets the Bellcore specs and can now receive Name and Number. On the trunk form there is a send name field. If you set it yes and the LEC has the PRI setup correctly you can send and receive name and number.  NOTE: If you set send name on the trunk form to yes,  now dial an outbound call.  If you get waved off (reorder tone), turn the send name bcak to no.  This tells you that the LEC does no have the PRI setup properly.  The above only applies to the PRI. If you have trunks using an ICLID trunk board the rules are different.

RE: G3si and ANI (caller ID)

MR,

I have phone with display and I am using ISDN PRI. I am receiving the number , but the name doesn't. I have a voice compression system in the middle from two PBX (Definity) from Marconi Communications. The name is yes to send, but I have been analyzed the frames in the voice compression system (SE) when the frames come, and the calling party can not be recognized. I don't know if the Lucent use the codeset to ETSI out of standard. Do you what codeset from Lucent is ?
And, when the SE doesn't recognize the calling party, it sends a request to PBX to send the calling party again separately, number by number.

For example :

00  000000--  Sapi = 0
     ------0-  C/R: Command
     -------0  Extension Bit = with extension
 01  0000000-  TEI = 0
     -------1  Extension Bit = no extension
 00  0000000-  N(S) = 0
     -------0  I-Frame
 00  0000000-  N(R) = 0
     -------0  P/F = 0
 08  00001000  ProtocolDiscriminator DSS1
 02  00000010    Length of CallReference = 2
 30  0-------    CallRef-Flag: Origination Side
     -0110000    CallReference = 12393
 69  01101001    (CallReference)
 05  00000101  MSG-Type: SETUP
 04  00000100  I-Element: Bearer
 03  00000011    Length = 3
 90  1-------    Extension Bit = no extension
     -00-----    Coding Standard: CCITT
     ---10000    Information Transfer Capability: 3.1 kHz Audio
 90  1-------    Extension Bit = no extension
     -00-----    Transfer Mode: circuit mode
     ---10000    Information Transfer Rate: 64 kbit/s
 A3  1-------    Extension Bit = no extension
     -01-----    Layer 1 Identifier
     ---00011    User Info Layer 1 Protocol: G.711 A-Law
 18  00011000  I-Element: Channel Identification
 03  00000011    Length = 3
 A1  1-------    Extension Bit = no extension
     -0------    Interface Identifier present: interface implicitly identified
     --1-----    Interface Type: other interface
     ---0----    Spare
     ----0---    Preferred/Exclusive: indicated channel is preferred
     -----0--    D-channel indicator: is not the D-channel
     ------01    Information Channel Selection = as indicated in following octets
 83  1-------    Extension Bit = no extension
     -00-----    Coding Standard: CCITT
     ---0----    Number/Map: Channel by Number
     ----0011    Channel Type/Map Element Typ: B-Channel Units
 81  1-------    Extension Bit = no extension
     -0000001    Channel number: 1
 1E  00011110  I-Element: Progress Indicator
 02  00000010    Length = 2
 81  1-------    Extension Bit = no extension
     -00-----    Coding Standard: CCITT
     ---0----    Spare
     ----0001    Location: private network serving local user
 83  1-------    Extension Bit = no extension
     -0000011    Progress Description: origination address is non-ISDN
 6C  01101100  I-Element: Calling Party Number
 05  00000101    Length = 5
 A1  1-------    Extension Bit = no extension
     -010----    Type of Number: national
     ----0001    Numbering Plan: ISDN/Telephony
 31  0-------    Spare
     -0110001    Number digit: 1
 35  0-------    Spare
     -0110101    Number digit: 5
 35  0-------    Spare
     -0110101    Number digit: 5
 37  0-------    Spare
     -0110111    Number digit: 7
 70  01110000  I-Element: Called Party Number
 01  00000001    Length = 1
 80  1-------    Extension Bit = no extension
     -000----    Type of Number: unknown
     ----0000    Numbering Plan: unknown
 97  10010111  I-Element: unknown
 28  00101000  (not decoded)
 0D  00001101  (not decoded)
 54  01010100  (not decoded)
 65  01100101  (not decoded)
 6C  01101100  (not decoded)
 65  01100101  (not decoded)
 63  01100011  (not decoded)
 6F  01101111  (not decoded)
 6D  01101101  (not decoded)
 20  00100000  (not decoded)
 2D  00101101  (not decoded)
 20  00100000  (not decoded)
 54  01010100  (not decoded)
 6F  01101111  (not decoded)
 63  01100011  (not decoded)


Thanks

jforti

RE: G3si and ANI (caller ID)

I have spoken with our bell provider and have confirmed PAC BEll in California does not have the capability to send name and number over pri lines so the default is number you can have it changed to name but you will lose the number.

RE: G3si and ANI (caller ID)

(OP)
Thanks for your comments. Our carrier tested the Definity that thay have in their corp office. It worked, however on another Definity it did not. Well I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Thanks Again

RE: G3si and ANI (caller ID)

when you want to connect definity and nortel you must purchase isdn-pri Qsig protocol and speical feature (name tranfer to norton equipment)

RE: G3si and ANI (caller ID)

Wilsontec,
 
So, I can't connect the Nortel PBX with Lucent through of  ETSI protocol for example, only with Q.Sig.
Because that the DCS from Lucent is proprietary on ETSI ?
Am I sure ?

Thanks,

jforti

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