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How to get foreign key for inserting new records.

How to get foreign key for inserting new records.

How to get foreign key for inserting new records.

Any suggestions to solve this problem? - Sorry for long question.

Suppose I have two tables,
Orders{OrderID, OrderDate...) and
OrderLines{OrderLineID,OrderID,ProductID....} where OrderID is the primary key in orders and foreign key in orderlines. OrderID as PK defaults to the next integer using a sequence.
I want to add new records for a customer's order, ie add the Order record then all the associated OrderLine records.

In a transaction, how do I get the new OrderID for inserting into the OrderLine records before the transaction is committed?

Begin Transaction
Insert Into Orders (OrderDate...) Values (...);
//Get the new orderid somehow
For Each Order-Item
   Insert Into OrderLines (OrderID, ...) Values (...);
Commit Transaction

I am doing this using PHP-Pear and also ADO, not using PSM.

FYI- In MS SQL Server i have the same problem, solved by finding the maximum OrderID, which is the new one, inside the transaction. I don't like it though.

RE: How to get foreign key for inserting new records.

If your sequence is, for example, named SEQ1, you get the default by setting: DEFAULT NEXT_VALUE OF SEQ1. Then to access the last value of the sequence you use: CURRENT_VALUE OF SEQ1.

Begin Transaction
//  This insert uses NEXT_VALUE OF SEQ1
Insert Into Orders (OrderDate...) Values (...);
//  The following inserts can access the value of SEQ1
For Each Order-Item you do
   Insert Into OrderLines (OrderID, ...) Values (CURRENT_VALUE OF SEQ1, ...);
Commit Transaction

After you have used NEXT_VALUE, then CURRENT_VALUE will return the same value until you use NEXT_VALUE on the same sequence again (regardless of other users).

RE: How to get foreign key for inserting new records.

I have tested your SQL Server solution in Mimer but its very slow doing max(id) if the table is big and used a lot (risk of transaction conflict). We changed to using timestamp as primary key, it works well. But sequences is a new thing that is even better.

RE: How to get foreign key for inserting new records.

I agree my sql server solution sucks. It was used in a vb program with ADO when adding a new record the database won't supply a value for a 'autonumber' type field until updated.
I think sequences are super! Mimerwizard's solution looks like a winner.

RE: How to get foreign key for inserting new records.


Using a timestamp as a primary key? Guess Murphy is waiting for you? Never get key conflicts?

What are sequences for?

Martijn Tonies
InterBase Workbench - the developer tool for InterBase and Firebird

RE: How to get foreign key for inserting new records.


have been using timestamp as primary key for a log table in production for some time (before sequences where available). It works because timestamps include milli seconds and if you get an error doing insert you can easily do another try.

But I agree with you if there would be hundreds of inserts per second, but how often is that the case?

In this case we didnt have any better for a primary key. We could have used a random value as primary key or having next value in a separate table but that would give a transcation conflict to often.

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