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Want to be a programmer

Want to be a programmer

Want to be a programmer

(OP)
I am three classes short of completing my Associates degree in Computer Programming.  Only problem is I've run out of financial resources to continue atleast for another six months.  I was trying to get my foot in the door for a programmer position using VB but had no luck.  I know I am a rather bright programmer - I just haven't acquired any experience yet.  How can I get my foot in the door?  I had interviewed with a local company and had returned favorable results with three online tests they had me take at talentpoint.com in VB, SAS, and OOP.  They were excited until they realized that I had no work experience.  I've even been trying to take on volunteer programming projects so that I can gain a little experience but so far the companies I have interviewed with seem uninterested.  Any suggestions?

RE: Want to be a programmer

Submit your Resume of what you have done online, also try out brainbench.com , also not all of them just look for your technical expertise, The way I got into a company was apply at "Entry" level, been at the company for about a year now, doing Vb, ASP, ActiveX, C++, hardware, HTML, Etc.

Karl
kb244@kb244.com

Experienced in : C++(both VC++ and Borland),VB1(dos) thru VB6, Delphi 3 pro, HTML, Visual InterDev 6(ASP(WebProgramming/Vbscript)
http://www.brainbench.com/transcript.jsp?pid=629151

RE: Want to be a programmer

Karl's advice is very good.

I might add that wouldn't hurt to orient your resume to indicate the computer tasks you performed (even projects you completed at home). Nothing worse than a blank resume.

Also, it might help to find a mentor. I was fortunate, while earning my degree in computer science, to hook up with a guy who saw my potential (if i read your post correctly, you have the same sort of potential). He let me sit down for an hour five-days-a-week for a year and code some accounting software. Then he would give me $50 and say "See you tomorrow".

It looked great on my resume and I declined to tell prospective employers that I only worked one hour shifts. The guy's little software venture turned into Access (I'm sure you've heard of them).

In any case, don't give up. Get creative!



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RE: Want to be a programmer

Okay, I feel pretty bad about your situation. It's a No Win deal. Click on the link at the bottom of this post, go to the last page, click the e-mail link and send me a message. I'll see if I can set you up with job experience.


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RE: Want to be a programmer

Hehe , doesnt have to be considered recruitment, could just say on his resume (Volenteered work on the following sites, for the following companies) that would at least give him some experience, and could have his foot back into the doors of the more stingy, of course now that I think back to it, I did have some eperience that may have aided me into this small company, I used to Teach programming at the ACE Computer Camp at NC State last summer, on top of that I did some computer related vollenteer work at the school I atended. Not sure how much those attributed, but it would be what I could call experience. Oh btw did I mention that Brainbench is also a Site you can publically show your exam results to recruiters, just pop a resume up there, and modify your public transcripts, if your scores are indeed impressive someone might come along, of course depending if you're willing to relocate could be an issue (some of these companies are based in larger cities)  Well good luck, and I hope things go well for you.

Karl
kb244@kb244.com

Experienced in : C++(both VC++ and Borland),VB1(dos) thru VB6, Delphi 3 pro, HTML, Visual InterDev 6(ASP(WebProgramming/Vbscript)
http://www.brainbench.com/transcript.jsp?pid=629151

RE: Want to be a programmer

If you're short on funds, you can also try a temp agency, such as manpower. They pay low rates for entry level people.

RE: Want to be a programmer

exactly how low is "Low Rate" when you are speaking of a technical field such as programming?

Karl
kb244@kb244.com

Experienced in : C++(both VC++ and Borland),VB1(dos) thru VB6, Delphi 3 pro, HTML, Visual InterDev 6(ASP(WebProgramming/Vbscript)
http://www.brainbench.com/transcript.jsp?pid=629151

RE: Want to be a programmer

Have you considered doing voluntary work for a charity etc.. You can gain good experience and make useful contacts.

Ged Jones
gedejones@hotmail.com

RE: Want to be a programmer

Karl, it varies by geography and size of city. Call Office temp agencies in your area to find out. In the 8 cities I've lived in during the last 10 years, I'd say $10 to $15 per hr, or about 50 to 100% more than general office work (typing), or about 50% of what you would make as an entry-level programmer. If you want cash this week,(in fact sometimes Manpower pays per day) it can be a worthwhile to do this while job hunting or finishing classes at night. I tend to move cross country without finding a new job first, and have done this occassionally.

RE: Want to be a programmer

interresting information, in this company I started as 12$/hr until they bumped me to 30K salary because I was going to move away, and they wanted to keep me. but I'll keep that manpower in mind in the future (theres one right down the street, within a 1 min walk) in case anything happens.

Karl
kb244@kb244.com

Experienced in : C++(both VC++ and Borland),VB1(dos) thru VB6, Delphi 3 pro, HTML, Visual InterDev 6(ASP(WebProgramming/Vbscript)
http://www.brainbench.com/transcript.jsp?pid=629151

RE: Want to be a programmer

Elizabeth makes a good point about the temp agencies. They can save your life when you are short of cash or simply need to acquire additional experience.

After moving my family few years ago I signed on with a technical temp agency to help a major soap manufacturer finalize the launch of a new product line. My initial assignment was to observe the inspectors and note why they were rejecting good parts. I ended up writing Lotus 123 macros to compare sample lots using nonparametric statistics. I wasn't hired to work with computers but my temporary employer discovered that they received more return on their dollar that way. I was placed in a position where I interacted with engineering, R&D, quality assurance and management. The experience was invaluable and gave me a good perspective on the way things work (and don't work).

Usmc0311eau, you can take practically any job. If you work near a computer, eventually, your employer will sit you down in front of the computer.




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RE: Want to be a programmer

(OP)
I appreciate all your tips and will definitely look into them.  I will definitely look into the charities and the temp-agencies.  Appreciate all your comments.  Thank-you.

RE: Want to be a programmer

Thanks for letting me off the hook, Umsc0311eau. I could have given you enough work experience to make your ears bleed (not charity, mind you; read the previous phrase).

Sometimes a programmer has to follow the true path....

(Been there... hated it!)



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