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BCM50 component level board repair.

BCM50 component level board repair.

BCM50 component level board repair.

(OP)
Has anyone here ever attempted component level repair? Two issues. First one should be easy.

I've got a BCM50 that won't keep the date and time after power down. It always reverts to Feb 6th 2036 and I don't know if I'll live long enough to see the calendar catch up to itwink. Taking a look at the board I'd say it's a 99% chance it being that big yellow M4T28-BR12SH1 timekeeper/lithium battery module that's the problem and I see they're still available from places like Digikey and Mouser. Can anyone confirm my assumption?

Second issue. I was playing around with my lab unit one day and the amphenol connector came off crooked with the cable end off first and the screw down end still on. I had a telco line connected to line one and after that I couldn't get dial tone on that line and calling it gave a busy a few times and then calling again I could hear ring back on the calling end but the BCM wouldn't detect the ring. So that line is pooched but the others are ok. I did a close inspection of the board and saw two areas that had identical circuits times four. One must be the trunks and the other the four analog extensions. Who's who? Looked up the SI3050 and SI3019 data sheets and they're the ones that do the ring detect and off hook etc so they're the ones. Determined that U2 and U3 are associated with trunk one. The data sheets for them show that the 3019 is the one that interfaces with the outside world (my fingers) so I'd wager that's it or some of it's support circuitry. The data sheet has an application circuit that looks very similar to the components on the BCM so that will be of help. Haven't launched into it yet as I haven't done a lot of smd (surface mount device) component repair, I come from the era of through hole which I'm very familiar with. My smd success rate is about 50% but that 50% would be the smd's come offsmile. I'll have to practice on some circuit boards before working up the nerve for the real thing. I'll post my results when done but it may take a while (weeks/months) as I have to locate and order parts.

Unfortunately the only BCM50's I've ever run into with bad motherboards are one's I screwed up myself. Everything else is always power supplies and hard drives.

Sure would be helpful if there were schematics for the BCM50 motherboard somewhere!

RE: BCM50 component level board repair.

Yellow block is indeed the Clock battery
For those not into the repair thing, if you have the Time set to Trunk or NTP server then you will be ok.

Best to look at the back and trace from the amp connector to the component.
exmogger maybe able to give you a clue but I am guessing the 4 big black ones might be Caller ID relays?

I have been lucky not to see any hardware issues with my repairs except for the ones you have described, HD and PS.

The amp falling out is common on sites due to lazy tech syndrome, but never seen it cause an issue or blow a port.
Were you lazy? eh? were you?????

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RE: BCM50 component level board repair.



Its shown as the clock battery on the photo. If you know Nortel Option 11c CPU's known as the SSC card, then I think they use the same battery.

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RE: BCM50 component level board repair.

(OP)


Link Data Sheet PDF for SI3050 and SI3019

Firebird, thanks for the picture I've added labels to a few more sections.

Curly, I have done a little tracing and found which section belongs to which trunk as per the pic. I don't think the 4 big black components in the trunk section are relays. I think they're transformers or inductors can't find any info on the part number though. Page 17 and 19 of the PDF show a typical application circuit and bill of materials. It looks very similar to the components on the BCM. There's section on page 36 that describes the caller id. looks like there's no hardware caller id decoding but the SI3050 just passes the raw data down the DTX lead on the PCM Highway. Probably to the DSP to decode the data.

RR

RE: BCM50 component level board repair.

(OP)
Curly,
The big black components in the trunk circuit section are marked RT2, RT3 etc. Checked out the standard reference designator for components and RT is a thermistor so I guess their purpose is to limit inrush current on the trunk circuit.
RR

P.S.
I wasn't a lazy (although my wife with some degree of legitimacy says so) tech not securing the amp connector. I'd never do that on site.
I've a couple of units in my lab and was switching connectors back and forth doing some testing. I accidentally snagged the cable and it disconnected unceremoniously (powered up of course with a CO trunk connected) causing all the mayhem.

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