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Help with company values "mantra"

Help with company values "mantra"

Help with company values "mantra"

(OP)
Hi all,

First and foremost I'd like to say that I am not here for your help with a marketing campaign, however, CajunCenturion, if you think this post is inappropriate then please feel free to delete it if it doesn't sit well with you due to the commercial backround of the question.

I work for a company whose logo is a large 'B'. We have a marketing campaign under construction to try and make some company core values more commonplace in the business using the 'B' element as a preposition to three words to highlight the key values.

The key values chosen are safety, environment and quality. Using the B for the first two is straightforward - "B safe" and "B green" appear to be the obvious choices, but the third one chosen by the department to signify quality - "B excellent" just doesn't sound right to me.

I think it gives the wrong impression for a number of reasons - "be excellent" is not used in day-to-day parlance, and the use of the word "excellent" (if we were to disregard the Bs) for me overpromotes the company somewhat. I am also struggling to get the idea of Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure out of my head either. bigsmile

I've passed my views back to the marketing department, but for those views to be deemed "constructive" (I believe that they may have received some other negative responses) they would like me to come up with some suitable replacements.

I'd be interested to know the grammar rules as to when "be" can be used as a preposition and if anyone can think of a suitable replacement, I'd be interested to hear.

Thanks to all in advance.


Nick

RE: Help with company values "mantra"

Quote (Nick)

I'd be interested to know the grammar rules as to when "be" can be used as a preposition
Actually, "be" (in the context you have given) is never a preposition...you are using it as an imperative verb form.

The only 'Be's that I can think of as prepositions might be: "beside" and "between"<grin>.

In direct reference to your concern, above, with "B Excellent", I don't see anything grammatically less acceptable than "B safe" or "B green".

santaMufasa
(aka Dave of Sandy, Utah, USA)
“People may forget what you say, but they will never forget how you made them feel."

RE: Help with company values "mantra"

I think the question is fine.

Now to the grammar. Be is being used as a verb, followed by an adjective, in an imperative statement. (You) be safe; (you) be green; (you) be excellent. It sounds like you're looking for an adjective that refers to high quality craftsmanship. Excellent is perhaps too generic and broad to convey the meaning you intend.

Am I correct is assessing that you're looking for an adjective that means "high quality craftsmanship" that can be used in a similar imperative sentence?

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RE: Help with company values "mantra"

I suppose B all that you can B is taken. wink

B Excellent may simply sound odd due to the soft vowel start of Excellent as opposed to consonants Safe and Green. It might also be the quantity of syllables that sets it apart.

Any Manager Buzz words will do (a quick look at motivational posters web sites helps)

B Active, B Proud, B Happy, B Involved, B Engaged, B Worthy, B Smart, B Brave, B Inspirational
B Curious, B Wise, B Persistent, B Yourself, B Resilient, B Positive, B Insightful, B Innovative,
B Responsible, B Modest, B Consistent,

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RE: Help with company values "mantra"

If you don't care for B Excellent, would B Exceptional pass muster?

I passed your request around our group here, and they came back with:
  • B Adequate
  • B Passable
  • B Tolerable
  • B Satisfactory
  • B Crafty
  • B Cool
  • B Boffo
  • B Bonnie
  • B Fantabulous
  • B Superlative
  • B Jim-Dandy
  • B Swell
  • B Supernal
  • B Superior
  • B Radical
  • B Splendid
  • B Divine
  • B Dope
  • B Sensational
  • B Peachy-Keen
  • B Phat
  • B Unsurpassed
Obviously, the culture around here can be a "half-a-bubble-off-plumb", but they had fun with it.

santaMufasa
(aka Dave of Sandy, Utah, USA)
“People may forget what you say, but they will never forget how you made them feel."

RE: Help with company values "mantra"

B Excellent to each other
(And... PARTY ON DUDE!)

Just my 2¢

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I suppose B all that you can B is taken. wink

I once heard a comedian say...

Quote:

The Army told me I could be all that I can be. Apparently all I could be was a truck driver.


RE: Help with company values "mantra"

B bop? smile

I think "B the best!" would round off the triplet nicely.

Annihilannic
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RE: Help with company values "mantra"

B the best you can B

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RE: Help with company values "mantra"

(OP)
Thanks for the great replies so far. To elaborate more on what's trying to be achieved, the three words chosen in my mind appear to have both a personal (when the 'B' is included) and a company-specific meaning (if the person viewing the logo doesn't associate the 'B').

For example, if you are an employee of the company, then the "B Safe, B Green, B Excellent" are some of the values that they're expected to abide by. However this will be used in marketing output, so it may be the case that the consumer takes those three words as being representative of the company - a company that is safe, green and, er... excellent. It's the excellent one that doesn't sit well with me. From Santa's list, his "B cool" example gives me the same feeling - it's too informal or on the flipside, too motivational or preachy.

CC - the 3rd word is trying to convey the idea of quality workmanship.

It's a little bit like a quiz now - can you come up with one word that conveys a sense of quality, that when used with "B" becomes personal, but when the B is not taken into account it is seen as a representation of the company values?

kwbMitel - "B Innovative" is a great one. Thank you. Santa, can you imagine "B Jim Dandy" or "B Peachy-keen" on an advertising hoarding? bigsmile

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B Outstanding

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RE: Help with company values "mantra"

B bopalula perhaps winky smile

More seriously I quite like B Inspired.

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RE: Help with company values "mantra"

[topical] NOT - B arclays [/topical]

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RE: Help with company values "mantra"

Here are some others to consider: first-rate, premier, unsurpassed, ideal, impeccable, flawless,
precise, reliable, unerring, dependable, reputable, irreproachable, genuine, distinguished,
respected, admirable, commendable

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RE: Help with company values "mantra"


I know of another company whose logo is a "b" - a small "b", though - Brussels Airlines.
They already do what you are trying to do. Say, their sugar packets marked "b. sweet" (see here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bushman_life/42976661...), and their plastic cups - "b. cool" (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cups/6421462013/), their in-flight magazine is called "b there" (http://www.btheremag.com/), They already employ slogan "b. green" (http://company.brusselsairlines.com/en_be/corp/cit...),
and offer "b. flex" and "b. light" economy programs, and so on.

I thought you may want to know and even check with a lawyer before starting a marketing campaign like that.

RE: Help with company values "mantra"

On the second thought, do you work for Brussels Airlines?

RE: Help with company values "mantra"

Be safe, Be green, Be the leader

Expecting the world to treat you fairly because you are good is like expecting the bull not to charge because you are a vegetarian.

RE: Help with company values "mantra"

"Benchmark", is a way to refer to your quality but not "b the benchmark"

RE: Help with company values "mantra"

But... B list, B rated, B grade, A1 excellent

RE: Help with company values "mantra"


And I guess B good is already taken by E.T. smile

Have fun.

---- Andy

RE: Help with company values "mantra"

We used to have a local radio personality that did a 'call in' routine with a character called "Sister." "She" would always say, "B Sweet!"

Jim

RE: Help with company values "mantra"

B Better

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Do things on the cheap & it will cost you dear

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