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Partitions?

Partitions?

(OP)
My friend gave me his computer and I see that he has Tiger, Panther and Jaguar on the desktop. How do I delete Panther and Jaguar from the computer. I already went to disk utility and erased those two partitions but everytime I start my mac up, they end up being on the desktop. How do I remove them completely??

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Probably, the cleanest way would be to save or backup any files or user stuff you want to keep, then completely reformat the drive the way you want for your needs. Be that a single partition or multiple partitions. Then install the system and software you want to use.

....JIM....
 

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(OP)
How do you reformat a drive?

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...you can reformat a drive by booting from the install disk (hold C key on startup with the disk in the drive)...

...when the CD install disk has booted you have a menu at the top, under "utilities" you have the "disk utility" program, from this program you can erase and reformat a whole drive, you can also partition a drive...

...generally you will want to reformat it using the "mac os extended (journaled)" option...

...reformatting erases all data on a drive...

andrew

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...to add to my post above...

...it sounds like you have erased the two partitions already, but the partitions are still named Panther and Jaguar, so they will still mount that way, although the contents will be empty...

...using "disk utility" from the boot disk will allow you to remove those partitions, you need to go into the "partitions" section of "disk utility" and select the minus option underneath the the volume scheme diagram, left hand side, at the bottom...

...be sure to select the right partitions, or you end up deleting the actual partition that holds the current OS (in your case tiger)...

To enlarge a partition, you must delete the partition that comes after it on the disk, and then move the partition's end point into the freed space. You can't enlarge the last partition on a disk. You can see the order of the partitions in Disk Utility by selecting the disk, clicking Partition, and looking at the Volume Scheme list.

All data on the deleted partition will be erased. Be sure to back up your disk's data before you begin.

To enlarge a partition:

From the list at the left, select the disk that contains the partition you want to enlarge, and then click Partition.

In the Volume Scheme list, select the partition beneath the partition you want to enlarge, and then click Delete (-).

The partition is immediately erased, leaving the space it formerly occupied available.

Resize the partition.

You can drag the divider at the bottom of the partition in the Volume Scheme list, or you can select the partition and then enter a value in the Size field.

If the enlarged partition doesn't use all the space from the deleted partition, you can create new partitions in the unused space.

To create a new partition, click Add (+), select the new partition, and choose its name, format, and size.

Click Apply.

Disk Utility enlarges the partition and creates any new partitions.

andrew

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...just be sure that whenever your modifying a disk structure you back up any important data you have (like emails etc), it's always good practice to...

...then in the very worst case you will have to re-install software programmes, still a pain, but not as much as losing data that cannot be replaced...

andrew

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...forgot to mention that as these are partitions you are dealing with you don't really need to boot from the install disk, so slight correction to my above post...

...you can in fact just run disk utility > partitions when booting from the startup OS (in your case tiger)...

...disk utility is found in the "utilities" folder, in "applications" folder...

andrew

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In addition to the above, OS 10 does have a help function, although it needs some improvement. The Apple website has all kinds of useful help stuff along the subject lines.

It only takes a little research and reading, and you can find all kinds of stuff to help!

....JIM....
 

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(OP)
I don't have the install disk for this computer. It's a power pc g4.  I do have an install disk for an iMac g5 Mac version 10.4.2. Can I use that one?  

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...as far as i am aware, only the "retail" version of Tiger 10.4 disk will boot in a PPC G4 machine, if the imac install disk is an intel version then i don't think it's possible to boot a PPC from it as the install disks are "system" specific. The retail versions are a bit different i believe...

...anyway, with your situation, you don't really need the install disk to fix the partitions, i corrected my post above saying:

>>> "...forgot to mention that as these are partitions you are dealing with you don't really need to boot from the install disk, so slight correction to my above post...

...you can in fact just run disk utility > partitions when booting from the startup OS (in your case tiger)...

...disk utility is found in the "utilities" folder, in "applications" folder..." <<<

...in short, you should be able to fix the partitions by running disk utility from a normal startup, disk utility is found in the "utilities" folder, in "applications" folder...






 


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(OP)
I did that and it does not allow me to delete the partitions.I clicked partitions and under Volume Schemes it has 3 boxes with the partitions in them. There is no opetion to delete them.  

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...it turns out this must be a tiger issue as on leopard you have the ability to remove partitions from disk utility, sorry for the confusion...

...looking at tiger, the only options are to use iPartition (backing up any data first):

http://www.coriolis-systems.com/

...or rebuild the entire drive, (backing up any data first) and reinstalling the OS completely, but for that you need the tiger OS install disk...


andrew

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...if the disk you have is a retail version then give it a go, the worst thing that can happen is the computer won't boot from the disk, bypassing it and booting up from the computer instead...

...if it does boot up from the disk you have, then you should know straight away really...

...if the disk fails then you can try getting back to your friend who gave you the computer, they should really have supplied you with the boot disk that he used to install tiger on it...

...shame your not near me as i do have an old copy "retail" version here you could have, i'm now running snow leopard, so it's not much use to me having tiger...


andrew

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Yes I tried the tiger disk that came with my iMac G5 but it says it cannot be installed on that computer. I also asked my friend but they do not have the disk. How can I get one of those disks? Is there a website where I can go on to buy the install disk and how do I know which is the right one to buy? I have a Power mac g4 533mhz.

Thank you so much for your feedback. It was very helpful to me.

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...you need to ensure you have a DVD drive to purchase the DVD version, cheapest i can find (other than going on ebay) is here:

http://www.ecrater.com/product.php?pid=5421787

...if you don't have a DVD player, then you will need the CD version (not many of them about):

http://store.fastmac.com/product_info.php?cPath=10_5_7&products_id=111

...it is also recommended you have 1Gb of RAM or as much as you can fit in a G4...


 


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Cool, thank you so much!! I appreciate you both!! It sucks how I just can't delete the partitions though. I mean they both have free space on them but it isn't letting me expand it or delete them so I guess I am going to have to go the more expensive way. Thank you guys again!

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...just be sure you get the full install suitable for PPC, the upgrade versions require Panther already installed, so avoid "upgrade" versions as I take you don't have panther either...

 


andrew

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...also beware of others selling the gray DVDs which say "iMac", "eMac", "iBook" or "PowerMac G5"...

 


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