XP networking wizard..cannot find network device on 98

[grez]

http://forums.devshed.com/showthread.php?t=138389

Hi! The link above explains the exact problem. When attempting to use the XP Network Wizard setup for a Win98SE machine, it states that it "cannot find network device". Now, the machine does reach the internet just fine, but cannot setup the network. Here are some details:

1)Using broadband internet / SMC Barricade Router
2)Machine 1: custom built XP Home
3)Machine 2: Compaq Presario 98 S/E
4)All critical updates performed
5)Net B, IPX/SPX compatible, TCP/IP all installed
6)Machine 2 can see and browse the internet
7)Machine 1 (XP) cannot see the 98 machine, and vice / versa
8)No conflicts in Device Manager
9)Sharing is set on both computers, each computer can find itself only on the network.
10)Same workgroup set on both

Any ideas? Thanks in advance!
grez

 

[micker377]

Set-up NetBui, this helps XP communicate with 98. If this works, be sure to check the TCP/IP to make sure that when you go online, you can't be seen from the internet.

 

[bcastner]

I take a different view: you already have too many transports loaded, and adding Netbui to the mix seems premature.

. Remove IPX/SPX

My checklist to resolve situations like you are facing:

. Client for Windows Networking, File and Printer Sharing, TCP/IP enabled on all clients;

. For all clients, Networking Connections, LAN Connection, TCP/IP Properties, Advanced, WINS tab, enable Netbios over TCP/IP You can also uncheck the use of LMHOSTS.

. Users have usernames and passwords. All users on Computer A are made users with passwords on Computer B; All users on Computer B are made users with passwords on Computer A; etc.. for all Workgroup computers

. No firewall issues:
. Any firewall must pass the TCP and UDP ports specified in this MS KB:

The following ports are associated with file sharing and server message block (SMB) communications:
Microsoft file sharing SMB: User Datagram Protocol (UDP) ports from 135 through 139 and Transmission Control Protocol (TCP) ports from 135 through 139.
Direct-hosted SMB traffic without network basic input/output system (NetBIOS) uses port 445 (TCP and UPD).

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q298804

. Watch out for "hidden" firewalls in antivirus software; PC-Illan is infamous for setting a firewall component that will block Netbios traffic with a default install. Watch out for the native XP ICF firewall. If you run the Network Wizard it will be enabled. (See my link just above).

. Disabling the firewall is not enough. Remove by an uninstall or configure it properly (the latter is my preference). To configure the native ICF firewall under XP see:

http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...port/kb/articles/q308/1/27.ASP&NoWebContent=1

This will become dramaticly easier under Service Pack 2.

. Something, anything: drive, folder, printer, but something shared on every computer to force a listing in Network Neighborhood.

Other than it can take 30 or so minutes to fully populate Network Places. For XP Home you can only do the Simple File Sharing Model.

Simple file Sharing - Enabled on XP Home

http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/filesharing.htm

 

[J741]

Bastner covers a lot of bases for you already, but I will add the following:

FIRST: Make sure you have Service Pack 1 installed on the Windows XP machine. Service Pack one for Windows XP resolves a LOT of known networking issues when connecting to Windows 9x based machines.

Use only the TCP/IP protocol. You are using a broadband router, so you should be using a DHCP configured IP address from each PC, and not a static IP. Check the IP address of both PCs. If the first three segments of the IP address on each PC (eg. 192.168.0.*) are not identical, then you need to double-ckeck your TCP/IP settings and make sure they are assigned by DHCP. If both IPs have the first three segments identical, make sure you can PING each machine's IP address. If not, you may have a phisical network problem.

Next, once a physical network connection has been confirmed with the use of PING, try to locate each computer by network name. That is, use the 'find - computer' function in Windows 98 to locate the Windows XP machine by name, and use the 'search - computers or people' function on Windows XP to locate the Windows 98 machine by name. If this only works in one direction, then you probably have some firewall software operating on the computer which can not be found. Either you have enabled the default Windows XP firewall or you have some other software like Norton Internet Security, Zone Alarm, etc. Check your system tray icons to see what you may have running.

If you can locate each computer by name when you search, but the computers do not show up when you browse the network, don't worry about it. It may take Windows XP a little while to refresh it's cache of network information. (I've seen it take up to 3 days).

You may also need to add an entry to the HOST file for each machine, to force the machine's network name to be resolved to the correct IP address. Use this only as a last resort however.

- James.