Where to find Virtual Machine now?

[xproforme]

Apparently, Microsoft no longer has the rights to Virtual Machine that uses JAVA. Sun Microsytems, is where one needs to go to donload JAVA VM to play a multitude of games and other JAVA based applications. I found this out recently when trying to play games online as I had in the past. XP Pro does not include this as previous versions of Windows had. I was getting frustrated as I was no longer able to play "Collapse" online. Anyways, for those wanting to download JAVA VM should visit:

http://www.java.com/en/download/windows_automatic.jsp

(Copy and paste into your browsers address browser) L Pena in West Texas.

 

[jocko327]

Thats cool. I was wondering why I couldn't play Cribbage on Yahoo anymore. Thanks a lot!!

 

[bcastner]

You can still get the MS JVM:

http://download.windowsupdate.com/m...l/MSJavWU_8073687b82d41db93f4c2a04af2b34d.exe

 

[xproforme]

If you ask me both Microsoft and Sunmicro did a poor job of letting people know about the change with VM. It goes to show you that users are are pretty much on our own when it comes to relaying information on to literally millions of PC users. I wonder what other suprises we can expect as Microsoft continues to pay the piper for past unethical practices? L Pena in West texas.

 

[xproforme]

As far as I'm concerned Microsoft had it's chance with VM on my system, and unless I have problems with my current installation from Sun I don't see any useful point to installing the MS version and having 2 of the same?

 

[xproforme]

One other point I make as well is why didn't MS offer VM on their' update site? Why such a big secret?

 

[bcastner]

Sun Microsystems sued Microsoft over what it believed to be a license violation. Microsoft paid Sun a license fee to be able to include the java Virtual Machine in its OS products.

Sun believed that Microsoft's implementation of java included additions to the java language that were not standard, and sued to preserve the purity of the java language.

The suit is still not over, but in the interim Microsoft agreed not to distribute the M-JVM with its products, and released Service Pack version 1a for XP to meet the requirements of this interim agreement. The M-JVM is available on their update site. It will apply automaticly with Windows Updates to users of XP as originally released, and those users of Service Pack 1.0.

1. Go to the Windows Update web site.
2. Click on "Windows Update Catalog".
3. Click on Find updates for "Microsoft Windows operating systems".
4. Select your OS from the list.
5. Click "Advanced search options".
6. In the text box, type in "VM" but without the quotes.
7. Click the button to search.
8. Click the "Critical Updates and Service Packs (1)" link.
9. There you go, the Microsoft Java Virtual Machine.

 

[xproforme]

Thanks, I already downloaded the MS version and if the Sun version causes problems then I will install the MS version. I've been using MS products since the very beginning, but I don't generally download anything more than "critical updates." Very rarely do I elect to install other types of updates; the exception perhaps being DirectX as I play games on my PC. However, Microsoft has a certain responsibility to notify it's product users of such significant events that affects us in terms of product features that customarily have been included in past versions of Windows. It seems to me that MS has ample resources and could have posted something on it's update site letting users know what was going on with the issue of VM. Lack of information lead me to Sun and I just want to be able to play online games again, and I can now no thanks to MS. I look at this way, if the ongoing litigation against MS proves to be true then other software manufacturers will probably follow suit and genuine competition will take place allowing even more product development at probably much lower prices to us all. My sincere hope is to someday see true compatibility across OS platforms. Currently, the mess created by Microsoft is truly sad, and litigation seems to be the only way to make things changes for the better. Technology is here to stay, and it's about time we all put our' two-cents in to let the computer industry know that somethings need to change. L Pena in West Texas.