Or you could login as root, get all the user's logged out, and then "shutdown -g0 -i0 -y". Power off when the console says it's safe to, and then get your screwdriver out... [sig]<p> Andy Bold<br><a href=mailto: > </a><br><a href= > </a><br>"I've probably made most of the mistakes already, so hopefully you won't have to..." Me, most days.[/sig]