I have found VB to be particularly speedy for desingning GUIs. VB's design inteface will spoil you quickly. VFP has a much more powerfull, reliable and faster data access then VB. As intgrating the two is a nuisence(sp?), I have used VB for less and less over the years. In fact I still have VB4... never upgraded it. That is how much I use it now. [sig]<p> Pete<br><a href=mailto:blindpete@mail.com>blindpete@mail.com</a><br><a href= > </a><br>What your mother told you is true! You will go blind! (from moonshine anyway)[/sig]