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Upgrade or Not
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The few PCs I've upgraded have worked fine. There are some that I don't think I will upgrade but will simply replace with newer machines. As far that the security issues, I've had to dealt with MS's security issues since Win95, either intentional or accidental, so that is nothing new. A good external (hardware) firewall helps immensely.
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Since most of us are in a business environment, I will offer the following. Make sure that you investigate any software used on the machine before blindly upgrading. I have had issues with ACT/Sage software as well as some CAD programs. Assuming the PC is new enough, has compatible drivers, and is beefy enough to handle W10 then you can proceed. I haven't had too many problems with the upgrade on newer machines but legacy machines have had weird issues.
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johnherman
MIS
I am never going to upgrade my Windows 7 machine. I bought a new computer with pre-installed Windows 10 (and it scares me so much that I won't let it on my home network - it's standalone).
But then again, I still have a Windows for Workgroups 3.1.1 machine that is isolated from the network, too. But I'm afraid that the WFW "museum quality" machine might get an incurable virus.
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But then again, I still have a Windows for Workgroups 3.1.1 machine that is isolated from the network, too. But I'm afraid that the WFW "museum quality" machine might get an incurable virus.
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goombawaho
MIS
Didn't see that coming johnherman!!!
I've done about 7 upgrades and no problem on any of them. Occasionally a non-critical driver is missing or anti-virus needs an update to support Windows 10. My customers have done some on their own and I've heard of no reported problems.
There ARE still bugs with certain software not working on Windows 10 (customers have told me that XYZ doesn't work with W10) and no doubt some hardware combinations too. I would honestly wait until June 15th, 2016 just for everybody to catch up with Windows 10 and for Microsoft to keep "perfecting" it. I would run the Windows 10 compatibility tester first.
Personally I don't like Windows 10 hugely. But, if I compare it to Windows 8/8.1, those two operating systems make me angry every time I touch them without a start menu replacement program. I much prefer Windows 7 to Windows 8/8.1/10 but I don't think Windows 10 is going to make me starting drinking vodka for breakfast like Windows 8 did.
What security issues? If you don't care about the telemetry data (customer experience) then nothing to worry about at all. Set all the switches to the least "tattling" setting and don't worry about it.
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I have seen many of my clients desktop, laptop & ms surface pcs upgrade to windows 10.
have not seen an ms surface have a system issue yet.
I have seen more issues with win7 machines going to win10, than i have win8 or 8.1 machines for the same upgrade.
Overall, genrally id say that about 90 percent of my clients machines so far have upgraded with no issue..
My entire office & home computers are now running windows 10, and im more than happy with it, providing just like win8.1, that classic shell start menu is installed, ( m$ still have not perfected the start menu that we are all used to from win7 and earlier..
ms has brought back the old win7 style backup utility,"backup and restore (windows7)" which allows for scheduled file, folder & system image backups, and a more definable backup routine than win8 file history.
At most, the worst that i have seen required a download of chipset & other hardware drivers, network etc in order for the machine to get back to its original operating speed.
Quite a few application vendors have not updated their code to run effectively on win10, best to check your required apps vendor website to confirm if they are critical to your workflow.
Quite a few email applications have had issues with sending mail through smtp, among other similar issues, these a remedied simply by running the system file checker, which is built into windows.
(admin cmd prompt: sfc/ scannow)
You do get the option of express or customize settings during start up after the upgrade has completed, if you don't like all of your keystrokes, location data etc beaming back to m$, you can disable that functionality by going through the customize option.
I like win8.1 more than win7 , i like win10 more than 8.1
Hope this helps you make a decision..
have not seen an ms surface have a system issue yet.
I have seen more issues with win7 machines going to win10, than i have win8 or 8.1 machines for the same upgrade.
Overall, genrally id say that about 90 percent of my clients machines so far have upgraded with no issue..
My entire office & home computers are now running windows 10, and im more than happy with it, providing just like win8.1, that classic shell start menu is installed, ( m$ still have not perfected the start menu that we are all used to from win7 and earlier..
ms has brought back the old win7 style backup utility,"backup and restore (windows7)" which allows for scheduled file, folder & system image backups, and a more definable backup routine than win8 file history.
At most, the worst that i have seen required a download of chipset & other hardware drivers, network etc in order for the machine to get back to its original operating speed.
Quite a few application vendors have not updated their code to run effectively on win10, best to check your required apps vendor website to confirm if they are critical to your workflow.
Quite a few email applications have had issues with sending mail through smtp, among other similar issues, these a remedied simply by running the system file checker, which is built into windows.
(admin cmd prompt: sfc/ scannow)
You do get the option of express or customize settings during start up after the upgrade has completed, if you don't like all of your keystrokes, location data etc beaming back to m$, you can disable that functionality by going through the customize option.
I like win8.1 more than win7 , i like win10 more than 8.1
Hope this helps you make a decision..
dilettante
MIS
I'll probably keep running Windows Vista until support drops, then I'll move those machines to Windows 7 since I already have two copies on the shelf. I might get around to moving to Win7 before then, it depends on how motivated I get because I prefer clean installs.
I bought a small machine with Win10 preinstalled so I don't have to deal with the glitchiness so many encounter after trying to"upgrade" pre-Win10 hardware. That gives me a software testing platform in the meantime, and one that I know works. Shop around, I only paid $120 for this one.
This helps me defer a lot of problems without dealing with customer complaints about software not working under Windows 10. I had been testing with Win10 on a VM, but it wasn't good enough to test things like multimonitor DPI scaling.
As much as the UI and its fake Start Menu sucks, there are a lot of good new things in Windows post-Win7. Too bad that even though most of those could have been retrofitted into earlier versions they never will be. That means I can't really make use of most of them until some years down the road. But we go through this with every new Windows release.
I bought a small machine with Win10 preinstalled so I don't have to deal with the glitchiness so many encounter after trying to"upgrade" pre-Win10 hardware. That gives me a software testing platform in the meantime, and one that I know works. Shop around, I only paid $120 for this one.
This helps me defer a lot of problems without dealing with customer complaints about software not working under Windows 10. I had been testing with Win10 on a VM, but it wasn't good enough to test things like multimonitor DPI scaling.
As much as the UI and its fake Start Menu sucks, there are a lot of good new things in Windows post-Win7. Too bad that even though most of those could have been retrofitted into earlier versions they never will be. That means I can't really make use of most of them until some years down the road. But we go through this with every new Windows release.
While it has been somewhat frustrating trying to locate where many of the old and new features are, that's to be expected with any transition and I'm happy with it overall. Did a clean install on a beefy HP Z820 that ran pretty damn fast in Windows 7, and under Windows 10 it feels even faster. The age of the hardware makes a difference, so you're mileage may vary.
It's not quite ready for primetime in a large organization, as there will undoubtedly be apps and particularly internal websites that may not behave as expected in the new OS, but if you have a secondary workstation you can throw it on first while the kinks are being ironed out, then it's definitely worth the time.
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It's not quite ready for primetime in a large organization, as there will undoubtedly be apps and particularly internal websites that may not behave as expected in the new OS, but if you have a secondary workstation you can throw it on first while the kinks are being ironed out, then it's definitely worth the time.
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rclarke250
Technical User
Did a clean install of 10 on an Asus ROG laptop, no issues, but I did have to install a touch pad driver that Windows 10 missed on a beta version, release version is good. Also did an upgrade on a home built PC, and upgraded the video card after the Windows 10 upgrade, no issues,first boot it detected the upgraded video card, and went out and installed the latest video driver without me having to tell it to, runs great. Had to recreate my network drive, and install my network printer. Laptop is running the software for my 3d printer. My home theater pc's have to stay on Windows 7 or I can move them to 8.1, because Microsoft dropped windows media player in 10, and it is needed for the cable tuner cards I have to record some channels.
Acording to Microsoft You can have the Media Player in windows 10, you just have to download it. See the following link
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rclarke250
Technical User
My bad, Media Center, not player. It has to do with the play fair video playback and recording encrypted video streams.
rclarke250
Technical User
I have, my understanding is it won't work with HBO,Starz,Showtime and such, but will most other stations. I haven't looked in about 6 months, so they may have updated it. I'll look again.
I'm satisfied with Windows 10, though I haven't reloaded older apps I have.
Be forewarned, Microsoft modified their support/upgrade schedules. Windows 7 until 2020 and Windows 8.1 until 2023 now applies only to older CPUs, ones released before the current generation. There are some extensions for the new CPUs but that ends July 17, 2017. They're really trying to lock Windows 7 & 8.1 into older tech only.
For example you may have a computer that runs Windows 7 on a 5th gen Intel CPU and it's okay until 2020. But if the mainboard dies and you go out and buy a newer board for later CPUs, 6th gen or later, then you'll be forced into Windows 10 at least by 2017.
Be forewarned, Microsoft modified their support/upgrade schedules. Windows 7 until 2020 and Windows 8.1 until 2023 now applies only to older CPUs, ones released before the current generation. There are some extensions for the new CPUs but that ends July 17, 2017. They're really trying to lock Windows 7 & 8.1 into older tech only.
For example you may have a computer that runs Windows 7 on a 5th gen Intel CPU and it's okay until 2020. But if the mainboard dies and you go out and buy a newer board for later CPUs, 6th gen or later, then you'll be forced into Windows 10 at least by 2017.
dilettante
MIS
Well long before then Windows 10 will have mutated to the point where driver support is better, and we could even get lucky an usuability could improve (Cortana ripped out, WinRT ripped out, fake Start Menu replaced with a real Start Menu, etc.).
So most people have little to lose by at least waiting until closer to the end of the "free upgrade" period.
If you want to do software testing though you'll be better off with a test box from a reliable OEM that ships with Win10 preinstalled.
So most people have little to lose by at least waiting until closer to the end of the "free upgrade" period.
If you want to do software testing though you'll be better off with a test box from a reliable OEM that ships with Win10 preinstalled.
goombawaho
MIS
Man - that old "no start menu / sucky start menu" complaint thread has NO END. And I'm one of them. My brain still freezes when I get on a Windows 8 PC.
How are they disallowing new motherboards from running Windows 7/Windows 8 - disallowing activation??
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How are they disallowing new motherboards from running Windows 7/Windows 8 - disallowing activation??
"Living tomorrow is everyone's sorrow.
Modern man's daydreams have turned into nightmares.
Nelviticus
Programmer
They're not disallowing anything, they just won't be writing drivers for new CPUs for old operating systems. Just like you won't find Windows XP drivers for today's latest CPUs.
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