im still kinda confused.... I have all the layers (4), and I have 4 frames made from the first one like said in the FAQ. Then when I reorder the second frames layers to change the visible layer it changes the first one too. I just need to know how to get around that, and the FAQ isnt telling me what to do. To put it into a short summary,' the visible layer of all 4 frames is changing when I reorder the layers of any one of my animation frames'. I dont understand why that happening. Also when you guys respond can you state it a little simpler for me... im no stranger to HTML and computers but I am to the world of photoshop and imageready. I know a bit about photoshop but very little about imageready. BTW thank you for taking the time to respond <3 <3 <3