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newbiewonkinobie

newbiewonkinobie

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After reading several posts here, I noticed that tables are not recommended anymore; typically "divs" or something else is recommended instead. I know how to layout a web page with tables using a header, and 2 columns below it. For example the left column being 30% of the screen, and the right column being 60% of the screen.
How can I do this without tables?
I want to have links in the left column, and different "stuff" in the right column, and this template would be used for all pages of a website. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Flores
 
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One place to start is to google 'css tutorials'
or
'css column layout'

and check some of the links.

traingamer
 
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Code: 
<html><head><title>test</title>
<style>#header{position:relative;clear:both; background-color:red;}
#leftCol{position:relative; float:left;background-color:blue;}
#rightCol{position:relative; float:right;background-color:yellow}</style>
</head><body><div id = "header">test</div><div id = "leftCol">test</div><div id = "rightCol">test</div></body></html>
Like this ??? hope that helps

Glen
 
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Code: 
<html><head><title>test</title>
<style>#header{position:relative;clear:both; background-color:red;}
#leftCol{position:relative; width:30%;float:left;background-color:blue;}
#rightCol{position:relative; width:70%;float:right;background-color:yellow}</style>
</head><body><div id = "header">test</div><div id = "leftCol">test</div><div id = "rightCol">test</div></body></html>
OOPs this is better for what you want.

Glen
 
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Well here's a start
Code: 
<html><head><title>test</title>
<style>#header{
position:relative;
clear:both; 
border-style:solid;
border-width:3px;
border-color:black; 
background-color:red;
margin-left:100px;
margin-right:100px;
height:15%;
}
#leftCol{position:relative;
width:20.6%;
height:125%;
float:left;
border-style:solid;
border-width:3px;
border-color:black; 
background-color:blue;
margin-left:50px;
margin-right:0px;
}
#rightCol{position:relative;
width:59%; 
height:125%;
float:right;
border-style:solid;
border-color:black;
border-width:3px;
background-color:yellow;
margin-right:50px;
margin-left:-1px 
}

</style>
</head><body>
<div id = "header">test</div>
<div id = "leftCol">test</div>
<div id = "rightCol">test</div>
</body></html>

Glen
 
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oops again!!!shopuld be;
Code: 
#rightCol{position:relative;
width:52.7%; 
height:125%;
float:right;
border-style:solid;
border-color:black;
border-width:3px;
background-color:yellow;
margin-right:50px;
margin-left:-1px 
}

Glen
 
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Glenmac, once again, thanks for all your help. I modified the colors and played around with it last night (the layout) and here is what I came up with:


2 problems:
1: If viewed @ 800 x 600 in internet explorer, it looks kinda right, but if viewed at 1024 x 768, there is a big gap between the columns; how can I make the 2 columns touch? Should I give the columns fixed numbers instead of percentage widths?

2: The colors are kinda what I am looking for in Internet Explorer, but if I use Netscape, the "<p> </p>" class doesn't show the intended colors in the right column.

Again, all help will be appreciated.

Flores
 
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I beleive if you change the margin widths to a percentage it will help with problem # 1 as the browser keeps the px measurement and divides the screen with that taken into account . It will take some fiddling though. I tried that but as it was just an example didn't carry through.
I can't duplicate your color problem and the css looks correct sorry. Good luck!

Glen
 
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Had some time here you go;
Code: 
<html><head><title>test</title>
<style>
body {

scrollbar-base-color:#000000;
scrollbar-track-color:#000000;
scrollbar-darkshadow-color:#000000;
scrollbar-shadow-color:#23262c;
scrollbar-3dlight-color:#23262c;
scrollbar-arrow-color:#FFFFFF;
scrollbar-face-color:#23262c;
font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;
[COLOR=red]background-color:#222222;[/color]
}
#header{
position:relative;
clear:both;
text-align: center;
font-size:20pt;
color: #EFE7DF; 
border-style:solid;
border-width:3px;
border-color:dimgray; 
background-color:#23262c;
[COLOR=red]margin-left:10%;
margin-right:10%;[/color]
height:15%;
}
#leftCol{position:relative;
width:23.2%;
height:125%;
float:left;
border-style:solid;
border-width:3px;
border-color:dimgray; 
background-color:#23262c;
[COLOR=red]margin-left:5%;[/color]
margin-right:0px;
}
#rightCol{position:relative;
width:57%; 
height:125%;
float:right;
border-style:solid;
border-color:dimgray;
border-width:3px;
background-color:#23262c;
[COLOR=red]margin-right:5%;[/color]
margin-left:-1px 
}
A.menulink {
display: block;
width: 100%;
text-align: center;
text-decoration: none;
font-family:arial;
font-size:14pt;
color: #EFE7DF;
border: none;
}
A.menulink:hover {
color: white;
letter-spacing:1px;
border: solid 1px dimgray;
background-color:black;
}
p { 
text-indent: 2em; 
margin-top: 0; 
margin-bottom: 0; 
color="#EFE7DF";
padding-left: 0.2em;
font-size:12pt;
 }
</style>
</head><BODY>
    <DIV id="header">
      Paul-Flores
    </DIV>
    <DIV id="leftCol">
      <A href="[URL unfurl="true"]http://www.paul-flores.com"[/URL] class="menulink">Home</A>
	  <A href="[URL unfurl="true"]http://www.paul-flores.com/solidworks"[/URL] class="menulink">Solidworks</A>
	  <A href="[URL unfurl="true"]http://www.paul-flores.com/sheetmetal"[/URL] class="menulink">Sheet Metal</A>
    </DIV>
    <DIV id="rightCol">
      <P>
        This would be my homepage
      </P>
      <BR>
       
      <P>
        The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick
        brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox
        jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over
        the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.
      </P>
    </DIV>
  </BODY>
</HTML>
Hope that's closer to what you need.

Glen
 
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Great help, thanks. I will play with it tonight and hopefully get it right. For awhile I was thinking about putting the header, left column, and right column inside another div for it to "layout" correctly, but the boxes link will help also.

Flores
 
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That did it! [2thumbsup] Thanks for taking the time to actually help. I should now be able to fix it tonight.

Gracias,
Flores
 
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BTW the code I gave you doesn't work in NS. This does, with a few of my musings added. It looks a lot closer to the example you gave, I think.
Code: 
<html><head><title>test</title>
<style>
body {
[COLOR=red]scrolling:auto;[/color]
scrollbar-base-color:#000000;
scrollbar-track-color:#000000;
scrollbar-darkshadow-color:#000000;
scrollbar-shadow-color:#23262c;
scrollbar-3dlight-color:#23262c;
scrollbar-arrow-color:#FFFFFF;
scrollbar-face-color:#23262c;
font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;
background-color:#222222;
}
#header{
position:relative;
clear:both;
text-align: center;
font-size:20pt;
color: #EFE7DF;
border-top: 10px solid dimgray;
border-bottom: 10px solid dimgray ;
border-left:1px solid dimgray;
border-right:1px solid dimgray;
background-color:#23262c;
margin-left:10%;
margin-right:10%;
height:15%;
}
#links{
position:relative;
clear:both;
font-size:5pt;
color: #EFE7DF; 
border-left:1px solid dimgray;
border-right:1px solid dimgray;
border-top:ridge 5px solid gray;
border-bottom: 5px solid gray ;
background-color:#23262c;
margin-left:10%;
margin-right:10%;
height:5%;
}
#leftCol{
position:relative;
width:23.2%;
height:75%;
float:left;
border-right:1px solid dimgray;
border-left:1px solid dimgray;
border-bottom:1px solid dimgray;
 
background-color:#23262c;
[COLOR=red]margin-left:10%;[/color]
margin-right:-1px;
}
#rightCol{position:relative;
width:56.5%; 
height:75%;
float:right;
border-right:1px solid dimgray ; 
border-left:1px solid dimgray;
border-bottom:1px solid dimgray;
background-color:#23262c;
[COLOR=red]margin-right:10%;[/color]

}
A.menulink {
display: block;
width: 100%;
text-align: center;
text-decoration: none;
font-family:arial;
font-size:14pt;
color: #EFE7DF;
border: none;
}
A.menulink:hover {
color: white;
letter-spacing:1px;
border: solid 1px dimgray;
background-color:black;
}
p{ 
text-indent: 2em; 
margin-top: 0; 
margin-bottom: 0; 
color:white;
padding-left: 0.2em;
font-size:12pt;
 }
[COLOR=red]A.link {
vertical-align:text-top;
text-decoration: none;
font-family:arial;
font-size:10pt;
color: #EFE7DF;
border: none;
}
A.link:hover {
color: white;
letter-spacing:1px;
border: solid 1px dimgray;
background-color:black;
}[/color]
</style>
</head><BODY scroll = "auto">
    <DIV id="header">
      Paul-Flores
    </DIV>
   [COLOR=red] <DIV id="links">
     <A href="[URL unfurl="true"]http://www.paul-flores.com/solidworks"[/URL] class="link">first link</A>
<A href="[URL unfurl="true"]http://www.paul-flores.com/solidworks"[/URL] class="link">second link</A>
<A href="[URL unfurl="true"]http://www.paul-flores.com/solidworks"[/URL] class="link">third link</A>
    </DIV>[/color]
    <DIV id="leftCol">
      <A href="[URL unfurl="true"]http://www.paul-flores.com"[/URL] class="menulink">Home</A>
	  <A href="[URL unfurl="true"]http://www.paul-flores.com/solidworks"[/URL] class="menulink">Solidworks</A>
	  <A href="[URL unfurl="true"]http://www.paul-flores.com/sheetmetal"[/URL] class="menulink">Sheet Metal</A>
    </DIV>
    <DIV id="rightCol">
      <P>
        This would be my homepage
      </P>
      <BR>
       
      <P>
        The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick
        brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox
        jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over
        the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.
      </P>
    </DIV>
  </BODY>
</HTML>

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