Vincewhirlwind - - Thank you for posting. I have read that the first networks third octet must be divisible by the number of networks you are creating. In my case 8 networks which would mean the 3rd octet would have to be 8, 16, 24, etc. But some posts elude to the fact that the first networks third octet can be ZERO in some cases. I'm trying to find out what those cases are? Sorry for any confusion.