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Spare gateways G700
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If the gateways have been "licensed" to your SID (if they had local S8300 LSP's, they would have been), then the gateways can ONLY be used as gateways only on another switch, they will not be able to be licensed to another switch (used to contain an LSP/Survivable processor), as you have their Serial Numbers on your license (SID).
You can sell the S8500 the S8500 to someone as a spare, however, I would reload it from scratch to wipe it of your translations. The buyer cannot use your software/license, that is licensed to the original purchasing company only.
Mitch
AVAYA Certified Expert
You can sell the S8500 the S8500 to someone as a spare, however, I would reload it from scratch to wipe it of your translations. The buyer cannot use your software/license, that is licensed to the original purchasing company only.
Mitch
AVAYA Certified Expert
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AvayaTier3
Technical User
You can sell your gateways and the new owners can get Avaya to change the RFA registration and licensing if someone wants to use them with a LSP. If the buyer uses them for gateway only, it will make no difference. BP or Avaya can get the RFA database updated if the serial numbers need to be reused by a new customer.
Don't throw them away.
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bsh
37 years Bell, AT&T, Lucent, Avaya
Tier 3 for 27 years and counting
Don't throw them away.
A great teacher, does not provide answers, but methods to teach others "How and where to find the answers"
bsh
37 years Bell, AT&T, Lucent, Avaya
Tier 3 for 27 years and counting
AvayaTier3, have YOU actually ever done that? it seems to require approval from god him (or her) self. only the owner/selling company can have them removed from RFA, and by the time most of these used gateways arrive at eBay or the secondary resellers, they are not interested in helping the buyers of their used equipment, because they have to spend THEIR time to fix this issue.
nope, don't throw them away, but forget about using them with an internal LSP, on another switch, unless you know the seller and they are willing to go through a lot of gyrations/paperwork with AVAYA.
Mitch
AVAYA Certified Expert
nope, don't throw them away, but forget about using them with an internal LSP, on another switch, unless you know the seller and they are willing to go through a lot of gyrations/paperwork with AVAYA.
Mitch
AVAYA Certified Expert
AvayaTier3
Technical User
Many times, I have had Avaya change the RFA database to match serial numbers of media-gateways, IPSI boards, g3 processor and MSS/Netwrk Control boards used to replace defective equipment.
Surely it makes sense that if you need to replace a g700 and you buy a replacement with a serial number that is in the RFA database associated with some older equipment that belongs to someone elses old RFA database record, it cannot be used in two different places. Avaya will change their records in RFA to match your replacement hardware.
It is a shame that Avaya has no process to purge records to make this easier. But, when a customer is removing old equipement they don't use any longer they should not have to bother with Avaya to get records cleaned up either. So, nobody does.
It's not that hard to make Avaya understand that when you have a piece of hardware in your hands and you want to change your RFA database record to match this hardware's serial number, it cannot possibly be being used somewhere else for another customer.
A great teacher, does not provide answers, but methods to teach others "How and where to find the answers"
bsh
37 years Bell, AT&T, Lucent, Avaya
Tier 3 for 27 years and counting
Surely it makes sense that if you need to replace a g700 and you buy a replacement with a serial number that is in the RFA database associated with some older equipment that belongs to someone elses old RFA database record, it cannot be used in two different places. Avaya will change their records in RFA to match your replacement hardware.
It is a shame that Avaya has no process to purge records to make this easier. But, when a customer is removing old equipement they don't use any longer they should not have to bother with Avaya to get records cleaned up either. So, nobody does.
It's not that hard to make Avaya understand that when you have a piece of hardware in your hands and you want to change your RFA database record to match this hardware's serial number, it cannot possibly be being used somewhere else for another customer.
A great teacher, does not provide answers, but methods to teach others "How and where to find the answers"
bsh
37 years Bell, AT&T, Lucent, Avaya
Tier 3 for 27 years and counting
AvayaTier3
Technical User
You must have records for your equipment in RFA and when doing a serial number swap, this works.
If you don't have any valid RFA records in the database that show you have paid for RTU associated with your hardware, it would be next to impossible to get someone to create new records that do not exist under your companies name.
I do see your point Mitch and in cases like this, it would not be an easy task, for sure.
A great teacher, does not provide answers, but methods to teach others "How and where to find the answers"
bsh
37 years Bell, AT&T, Lucent, Avaya
Tier 3 for 27 years and counting
If you don't have any valid RFA records in the database that show you have paid for RTU associated with your hardware, it would be next to impossible to get someone to create new records that do not exist under your companies name.
I do see your point Mitch and in cases like this, it would not be an easy task, for sure.
A great teacher, does not provide answers, but methods to teach others "How and where to find the answers"
bsh
37 years Bell, AT&T, Lucent, Avaya
Tier 3 for 27 years and counting
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Thanks for all of the great posts. Reading through here, I guess this is what I've come up with:
To sell these and be safe for the buyer and us, we should know the buyer and work with them and Avaya to clean up any of the registration stuff especially if we sell the LSPs with our gateways.
To sell these and be safe for the buyer and us, we should know the buyer and work with them and Avaya to clean up any of the registration stuff especially if we sell the LSPs with our gateways.
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