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Shuttle motherboard destroyed 3 hard drives and CD-RW

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1970chag

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Sep 11, 2000
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US
My system:
Shuttle AV61, VIA Appolo Pro 133 with UDMA66
Intel PIII 600EB
128Mb PC133
Matrox G400 AGP
Sound Blaster Live
WIN98
52X CD-ROM
4X4X24 AOpen CD-RW CRW9420
LS-120 120Mb floppy drive
4-in-1 drivers installed (not the Bus mastering drivers, as recommended on the VIA web sight)
Latest drivers for Matrox and Sound Blaster
I have had NO luck getting a working system using the Shuttle AV61. I bought this motherboard from Computer Depot in San Diego. The first motherboard I brought home, I experienced failures in 3 hard drives. Each one got no further than loading Windows98 before the hard drives crashed. After buying a new case and power supply to verify they did not cause the problem, Computer Depot swapped the motherboard for a replacement. I had to buy another hard drive as well.
The second motherboard loaded Windows and was working okay, but the CD-RW immediately failed!
After investigating the VIA website some more, I found that this chipset "does not support CD-RW drives"!
I suppose causing the CD-RW to fail could be called "not supported"! It would have been nice to know this before I bought the motherboard.
At this point, I decided to remove the LS-120 drive and go back to a regular 1.44Mb floppy drive. Now I find that the floppy drive interface is failed.
So now I have a motherboard that I cannot use a floppy or a CD-RW with. I returned the board to Computer Depot,where they tested the board and indeed found it faulty. I requested that they let me pay the difference for a different motherboard that will work with a CD-RW. They refused, due to the time I have spent correcting problems with the original motherboard, I have exceeded their 30-day return policy and they will only RMA the board for me. Even if I got a fully functioning motherboard that will not destroy a hard drive, I cannot use a CD-RW with it, so it is at least partially useless to me.
If Shuttle is monitoring this forum, please contact me if you will work with me to get a different motherboard from the Shuttle line.
As for Computer Depot, even though I spent over $1000.00 on system parts with them, they will not flex on their return policy for the sake of a $70 motherboard. Their flexibility with the first few returns was good, but despite the fact that this motherboard has proven problems, they will not help me.

UPDATE!!!
After nearly a month, Shuttle finally decided to respond to e-mails. Now, they want me to pay $20 more to get an AB61, this motherboard does less than the AV61 did. They will not even swap the original motherboard for a REPLACEMENT of the same type. This makes 0% sense to the end user. Since the reseller won't help me, Shuttle is the only resort left, and they will not support their own product that failed TWICE!
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Being a dealer in PCs and components myself, I have to admit that I would be extremely uncomfortable about exchanging and or refunding in such a situation. There are so many things that can go awry during installation of a MB, ranging from static discharge to component mismatch.
A customer asks for MB "X", I supply it and he returns it because it did not support a device or function he required. Is that the dealer's fault?
I too would do a RMA for the customer. Please understand that I respond from my knowledge from my market area (darkest Africa) and I know my market well .... I would only sell a MB coupled with a waiver of any warranty. Clearly your neck of the woods is different; you clearly know what you are doing, but does the dealer know that? Quite honestly, my advise to anyone doing an upgrade of the extent of changing the MB; let the dealer do it. Any incompatibilities and not workings become his problem, not yours. He is the expert, let him sort it out and set it up.
That's how we operate and it works for us.
Lastly, I cannot imagine how an MB can wreck a hard drive. I have in fact seen hard drives come close to wrecking a MB on many occassions, but never the other way round. Which is not to say this did not happen in your case, but I would have replaced the HD without question if it were bought from me.
At the end of the day, all warranties are carried by the manufacturer, not the dealer, so I cannot understand the reluctance when it comes to peripherals. MB's?, another issue alltogether.
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